Comments on: It’s official: Crean inks 10-year deal with Indiana http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/ Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:48:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: MikeinNC http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-41139 MikeinNC Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:03:10 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/#comment-41139 The Star is mainly populated by trolls who have been frustrated for years by the cockiness of the IU fanbase...they now see the next two years as their last chances to take pot shots at the program before it gets back to a maddeningly (for them anyway) high level of excellence...last year during the height of Sampson mania I went out a few times on a Sunday to read the comments after an IU game and a Purdue game...the IU thread would have 60-80 comments, 80% of which were from anti-IU trolls; the Purdue thread would have 20 comments 25% of which would be trolls...it was fairly consistent. The Star is mainly populated by trolls who have been frustrated for years by the cockiness of the IU fanbase…they now see the next two years as their last chances to take pot shots at the program before it gets back to a maddeningly (for them anyway) high level of excellence…last year during the height of Sampson mania I went out a few times on a Sunday to read the comments after an IU game and a Purdue game…the IU thread would have 60-80 comments, 80% of which were from anti-IU trolls; the Purdue thread would have 20 comments 25% of which would be trolls…it was fairly consistent.

]]> By: MikeinNC http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-41138 MikeinNC Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:59:55 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/#comment-41138 I think this is the cost of our past 10 years of mistakes in managing the program....the bill finally came due to make things right, and it is a whopper...but they made the right move. When they recruited Crean, there's no way anyone understood how bad it would be. He has performed admirably thus far in building some momentum, and the administration could not risk him getting scared off and bolting as the picture got worse and worse over the past few months. Ultimately, it was a necessary move, and he appears to be the right guy. People the whine about the cost need to understand it should be amortized back over the past 10 years when the situation was created that now requires this cost. I think this is the cost of our past 10 years of mistakes in managing the program….the bill finally came due to make things right, and it is a whopper…but they made the right move. When they recruited Crean, there's no way anyone understood how bad it would be. He has performed admirably thus far in building some momentum, and the administration could not risk him getting scared off and bolting as the picture got worse and worse over the past few months. Ultimately, it was a necessary move, and he appears to be the right guy. People the whine about the cost need to understand it should be amortized back over the past 10 years when the situation was created that now requires this cost.

]]> By: MikeinNC http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-12366 MikeinNC Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:03:10 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/#comment-12366 The Star is mainly populated by trolls who have been frustrated for years by the cockiness of the IU fanbase...they now see the next two years as their last chances to take pot shots at the program before it gets back to a maddeningly (for them anyway) high level of excellence...last year during the height of Sampson mania I went out a few times on a Sunday to read the comments after an IU game and a Purdue game...the IU thread would have 60-80 comments, 80% of which were from anti-IU trolls; the Purdue thread would have 20 comments 25% of which would be trolls...it was fairly consistent. The Star is mainly populated by trolls who have been frustrated for years by the cockiness of the IU fanbase…they now see the next two years as their last chances to take pot shots at the program before it gets back to a maddeningly (for them anyway) high level of excellence…last year during the height of Sampson mania I went out a few times on a Sunday to read the comments after an IU game and a Purdue game…the IU thread would have 60-80 comments, 80% of which were from anti-IU trolls; the Purdue thread would have 20 comments 25% of which would be trolls…it was fairly consistent.

]]> By: MikeinNC http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-12345 MikeinNC Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:59:55 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/#comment-12345 I think this is the cost of our past 10 years of mistakes in managing the program....the bill finally came due to make things right, and it is a whopper...but they made the right move. When they recruited Crean, there's no way anyone understood how bad it would be. He has performed admirably thus far in building some momentum, and the administration could not risk him getting scared off and bolting as the picture got worse and worse over the past few months. Ultimately, it was a necessary move, and he appears to be the right guy. People the whine about the cost need to understand it should be amortized back over the past 10 years when the situation was created that now requires this cost. I think this is the cost of our past 10 years of mistakes in managing the program….the bill finally came due to make things right, and it is a whopper…but they made the right move. When they recruited Crean, there's no way anyone understood how bad it would be. He has performed admirably thus far in building some momentum, and the administration could not risk him getting scared off and bolting as the picture got worse and worse over the past few months. Ultimately, it was a necessary move, and he appears to be the right guy. People the whine about the cost need to understand it should be amortized back over the past 10 years when the situation was created that now requires this cost.

]]> By: fergrad http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-12361 fergrad Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:13:25 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/#comment-12361 I don't even read Indy star comments anymore. They are complete nonsense and are typically written by people who thought for a full 5 seconds before they wrote their message. They're even less thought out than ESPN comments, and that's saying a lot. I don't even read Indy star comments anymore. They are complete nonsense and are typically written by people who thought for a full 5 seconds before they wrote their message. They're even less thought out than ESPN comments, and that's saying a lot.

]]> By: tberry http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-12369 tberry Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:32:54 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/#comment-12369 IU seems to be perfectly willing to pay for a proven Basketball Coach but still will not put a package together to lure a proven Football Coach. Give just a portion to a really good, proven football coach and it would make a lot more sense.<br><br>It also seems strange that IU would make this deal without giving any thought to what the new AD will want or think right. Many were really upset because Dakich used his power when a new BB coach was in the offing. Why give away the house, good or bad, and leave the new AD out of the loop??? IU seems to be perfectly willing to pay for a proven Basketball Coach but still will not put a package together to lure a proven Football Coach. Give just a portion to a really good, proven football coach and it would make a lot more sense.

It also seems strange that IU would make this deal without giving any thought to what the new AD will want or think right. Many were really upset because Dakich used his power when a new BB coach was in the offing. Why give away the house, good or bad, and leave the new AD out of the loop???

]]> By: hoosier07 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-12337 hoosier07 Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:34:13 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/#comment-12337 my best friend works at the worldwide leader. he goes your school is nuts for giving him the deal that they did ... i told him live the last 2 years as a diehard hoosiers basketball fan and he would agree with me ... he then proceeded to shut up. <br><br>i am 100% behind this move, and bigA made some very valid points. TC definitely has what it takes to turn this program around.... and i dont know how many of the other potential candidates would have been able to achieve what he already has in just a few short months ... my best friend works at the worldwide leader. he goes your school is nuts for giving him the deal that they did … i told him live the last 2 years as a diehard hoosiers basketball fan and he would agree with me … he then proceeded to shut up.

i am 100% behind this move, and bigA made some very valid points. TC definitely has what it takes to turn this program around…. and i dont know how many of the other potential candidates would have been able to achieve what he already has in just a few short months …

]]> By: B_MD http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-12357 B_MD Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:33:51 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/#comment-12357 Seriously check out the comments on the Indy Star article. Hardly 1 single positive comments. Seriously check out the comments on the Indy Star article. Hardly 1 single positive comments.

]]> By: JHoosiers77 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-12353 JHoosiers77 Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:26:34 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/#comment-12353 Let's hope the IU administration continues to "get It" and pays for an AD at market rate like they did for Coach C. Anybody that has a problem with dollar amount of the contract lives in a small, narrow world and has no understanding of what a top program is required to do to stay there. Let's hope the NCAA also sees this as commitment to the future of the program and it lessens the impact of any penalties. Let's hope the IU administration continues to “get It” and pays for an AD at market rate like they did for Coach C. Anybody that has a problem with dollar amount of the contract lives in a small, narrow world and has no understanding of what a top program is required to do to stay there. Let's hope the NCAA also sees this as commitment to the future of the program and it lessens the impact of any penalties.

]]> By: MPmike http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-12349 MPmike Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:00:37 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/#comment-12349 This contract gives Ton Crean even more pressure to win big and win now. I believe that IU's administration believes that IU will suffer these next two seasons, so this will let Crean know that IU will support him through the tough years and this will help relieve the doubts of future recruits coming to IU. This contract gives Ton Crean even more pressure to win big and win now. I believe that IU's administration believes that IU will suffer these next two seasons, so this will let Crean know that IU will support him through the tough years and this will help relieve the doubts of future recruits coming to IU.

]]> By: fergrad http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-12342 fergrad Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:31:11 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/#comment-12342 I'm all for the contract. Its a lot of money, but its not too far off what the top schools pay their coaches now. If we want to succeed, we have to pay $ for a good coach who is committed to getting us there. I can only hope that Crean turns out to be that guy. As for the length, I think its fine. It gives Crean security to let recruits know that he will stay. With the players coming in through the next 2 years, I really think that IU will have a shot at winning the Big Ten by 2010. I'm all for the contract. Its a lot of money, but its not too far off what the top schools pay their coaches now. If we want to succeed, we have to pay $ for a good coach who is committed to getting us there. I can only hope that Crean turns out to be that guy. As for the length, I think its fine. It gives Crean security to let recruits know that he will stay. With the players coming in through the next 2 years, I really think that IU will have a shot at winning the Big Ten by 2010.

]]> By: B_MD http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-12332 B_MD Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:52:40 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/#comment-12332 I agree with everything you've said. We live in a country that supports a little thing called capitalism...Crean got what the market dictated he should get based on his experience and success and Indiana's current situation. I agree with everything you've said. We live in a country that supports a little thing called capitalism…Crean got what the market dictated he should get based on his experience and success and Indiana's current situation.

]]> By: Alex http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-12330 Alex Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:45:04 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/#comment-12330 I can't speak for the rest of the fan base, but I'm thrilled about the commitment to Crean and the fact that Indiana has a coach that is going to build the program the right way. Given the circumstances surrounding the program and how Crean was compensated at Marquette, IU had to open the checkbook to land him. <br><br>As much as I hate to say this, a lot of fans had an unrealistic view of the whole coaching search. The program has taken a hit the last decade and it was a tough sell to some candidates. The end result was making the situation lucrative and attractive enough for Crean to leave a program at Marquette where he was beloved. If Crean does the job I believe he can do, the money will be well spent. I can't speak for the rest of the fan base, but I'm thrilled about the commitment to Crean and the fact that Indiana has a coach that is going to build the program the right way. Given the circumstances surrounding the program and how Crean was compensated at Marquette, IU had to open the checkbook to land him.

As much as I hate to say this, a lot of fans had an unrealistic view of the whole coaching search. The program has taken a hit the last decade and it was a tough sell to some candidates. The end result was making the situation lucrative and attractive enough for Crean to leave a program at Marquette where he was beloved. If Crean does the job I believe he can do, the money will be well spent.

]]> By: B_MD http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-12325 B_MD Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:23:52 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/#comment-12325 In checking other sites/outlets I'm seeing a ton of negative comments on this announcement, mainly about the money.<br><br>I'm curious as to what people here think? I'm guessing it won't be as negative of a reaction since more people here understand the landscape of college basketball. In checking other sites/outlets I'm seeing a ton of negative comments on this announcement, mainly about the money.

I'm curious as to what people here think? I'm guessing it won't be as negative of a reaction since more people here understand the landscape of college basketball.

]]> By: hoosier07 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-12318 hoosier07 Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:35:45 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/19/its-official-crean-inks-10-year-deal-with-indiana/#comment-12318 we all knew this was coming, it was just a matter of when. <br><br>Now, anyone got an update on when the NCAA is going to reply with their findings to IU?! we all knew this was coming, it was just a matter of when.

Now, anyone got an update on when the NCAA is going to reply with their findings to IU?!

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