Comments on: ITH Super Happy Fun Time Top 10 List: Isiah Thomas http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/ Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:48:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: BGleas http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-36324 BGleas Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:53:39 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-36324 That's very true, and why I hate the "Bob Knight won with less talent" argument.<br><br>I know I'm opening a can of worms here :), but it's a slow summer. It is true that Knight's teams after 1993 were less talented, but they also weren't really title contenders either. When Knight had highly ranked teams (I mean top 5 to top 10) that were competing for national titles, he also had extremely high ranked and talented recruits. That's very true, and why I hate the “Bob Knight won with less talent” argument.

I know I'm opening a can of worms here :) , but it's a slow summer. It is true that Knight's teams after 1993 were less talented, but they also weren't really title contenders either. When Knight had highly ranked teams (I mean top 5 to top 10) that were competing for national titles, he also had extremely high ranked and talented recruits.

]]> By: MPmike http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-36322 MPmike Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:20:32 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-36322 Isiah was the toughest competitor ever. He just willed his teams to win. Isiah was the toughest competitor ever. He just willed his teams to win.

]]> By: MPmike http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-36323 MPmike Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:15:22 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-36323 The 1993 was the last talented team (as far as pure stars and talent)that Bob Knight assembled and the last one for IU. The past 2007 team was suppose to measure up to the1993 team, but we all know the rest of the story. The 1993 was the last talented team (as far as pure stars and talent)that Bob Knight assembled and the last one for IU. The past 2007 team was suppose to measure up to the1993 team, but we all know the rest of the story.

]]> By: B_MD http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-12410 B_MD Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:53:39 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-12410 That's very true, and why I hate the "Bob Knight won with less talent" argument.<br><br>I know I'm opening a can of worms here :), but it's a slow summer. It is true that Knight's teams after 1993 were less talented, but they also weren't really title contenders either. When Knight had highly ranked teams (I mean top 5 to top 10) that were competing for national titles, he also had extremely high ranked and talented recruits. That's very true, and why I hate the “Bob Knight won with less talent” argument.

I know I'm opening a can of worms here :) , but it's a slow summer. It is true that Knight's teams after 1993 were less talented, but they also weren't really title contenders either. When Knight had highly ranked teams (I mean top 5 to top 10) that were competing for national titles, he also had extremely high ranked and talented recruits.

]]> By: BGleas http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-31717 BGleas Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:53:39 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-31717 That's very true, and why I hate the "Bob Knight won with less talent" argument.<br><br>I know I'm opening a can of worms here :), but it's a slow summer. It is true that Knight's teams after 1993 were less talented, but they also weren't really title contenders either. When Knight had highly ranked teams (I mean top 5 to top 10) that were competing for national titles, he also had extremely high ranked and talented recruits. That's very true, and why I hate the “Bob Knight won with less talent” argument.

I know I'm opening a can of worms here :) , but it's a slow summer. It is true that Knight's teams after 1993 were less talented, but they also weren't really title contenders either. When Knight had highly ranked teams (I mean top 5 to top 10) that were competing for national titles, he also had extremely high ranked and talented recruits.

]]> By: MPmike http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-12389 MPmike Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:20:32 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-12389 Isiah was the toughest competitor ever. He just willed his teams to win. Isiah was the toughest competitor ever. He just willed his teams to win.

]]> By: MPmike http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-31712 MPmike Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:20:32 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-31712 Isiah was the toughest competitor ever. He just willed his teams to win. Isiah was the toughest competitor ever. He just willed his teams to win.

]]> By: MPmike http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-12404 MPmike Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:15:22 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-12404 The 1993 was the last talented team (as far as pure stars and talent)that Bob Knight assembled and the last one for IU. The past 2007 team was suppose to measure up to the1993 team, but we all know the rest of the story. The 1993 was the last talented team (as far as pure stars and talent)that Bob Knight assembled and the last one for IU. The past 2007 team was suppose to measure up to the1993 team, but we all know the rest of the story.

]]> By: MPmike http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-31716 MPmike Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:15:22 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-31716 The 1993 was the last talented team (as far as pure stars and talent)that Bob Knight assembled and the last one for IU. The past 2007 team was suppose to measure up to the1993 team, but we all know the rest of the story. The 1993 was the last talented team (as far as pure stars and talent)that Bob Knight assembled and the last one for IU. The past 2007 team was suppose to measure up to the1993 team, but we all know the rest of the story.

]]> By: gregmquinn http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-12401 gregmquinn Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:41:39 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-12401 In fairness though, Pat Graham, Evans and Henderson were each hurt for significant portions of the '93 season. In fairness though, Pat Graham, Evans and Henderson were each hurt for significant portions of the '93 season.

]]> By: gregmquinn http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-31715 gregmquinn Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:41:39 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-31715 In fairness though, Pat Graham, Evans and Henderson were each hurt for significant portions of the '93 season. In fairness though, Pat Graham, Evans and Henderson were each hurt for significant portions of the '93 season.

]]> By: gregmquinn http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-12376 gregmquinn Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:38:50 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-12376 You are right. I just looked it up and while Graham only averaged 12 minutes and 4.5 points per game he was around the league during 5 seasons. <br><br>By the way, in no way was I making fun of Graham or Haston. I loved both of those guys. You are right. I just looked it up and while Graham only averaged 12 minutes and 4.5 points per game he was around the league during 5 seasons.

By the way, in no way was I making fun of Graham or Haston. I loved both of those guys.

]]> By: gregmquinn http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-31707 gregmquinn Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:38:50 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-31707 You are right. I just looked it up and while Graham only averaged 12 minutes and 4.5 points per game he was around the league during 5 seasons. <br><br>By the way, in no way was I making fun of Graham or Haston. I loved both of those guys. You are right. I just looked it up and while Graham only averaged 12 minutes and 4.5 points per game he was around the league during 5 seasons.

By the way, in no way was I making fun of Graham or Haston. I loved both of those guys.

]]> By: daveINdc http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-12396 daveINdc Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:52:54 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-12396 In regards to Cheaney's lack of support.... his teammates included:<br>92-93<br>Pat Graham – 89 Mr Basketball – McDonalds AA(ranked 12th in US)<br>Greg Graham – McDonalds AA– (ranked 60th in US) <br>Damon Baily – 90 Mr Basketball (EA National HS BBall Player of Year) McDonalds AA<br>Cheaney (ranked 58th in US)<br>Henderson (ranked 6th in US) McDonalds AllAmerican<br>Nover (Indiana All Star team – as were all of the above players))<br>Evans<br>Chris Reynolds (ranked 48th in US)<br>Would have been seniors but transferred – #7 Funderburke, #44 Chris Lawson) <br><br>FOUR McDonalds All Americans and two other s that were top 60 in the US and Brian Evans..........not too shabby. In regards to Cheaney's lack of support…. his teammates included:
92-93
Pat Graham – 89 Mr Basketball – McDonalds AA(ranked 12th in US)
Greg Graham – McDonalds AA– (ranked 60th in US)
Damon Baily – 90 Mr Basketball (EA National HS BBall Player of Year) McDonalds AA
Cheaney (ranked 58th in US)
Henderson (ranked 6th in US) McDonalds AllAmerican
Nover (Indiana All Star team – as were all of the above players))
Evans
Chris Reynolds (ranked 48th in US)
Would have been seniors but transferred – #7 Funderburke, #44 Chris Lawson)

FOUR McDonalds All Americans and two other s that were top 60 in the US and Brian Evans……….not too shabby.

]]> By: daveINdc http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-31714 daveINdc Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:52:54 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-31714 In regards to Cheaney's lack of support.... his teammates included:<br>92-93<br>Pat Graham – 89 Mr Basketball – McDonalds AA(ranked 12th in US)<br>Greg Graham – McDonalds AA– (ranked 60th in US) <br>Damon Baily – 90 Mr Basketball (EA National HS BBall Player of Year) McDonalds AA<br>Cheaney (ranked 58th in US)<br>Henderson (ranked 6th in US) McDonalds AllAmerican<br>Nover (Indiana All Star team – as were all of the above players))<br>Evans<br>Chris Reynolds (ranked 48th in US)<br>Would have been seniors but transferred – #7 Funderburke, #44 Chris Lawson) <br><br>FOUR McDonalds All Americans and two other s that were top 60 in the US and Brian Evans..........not too shabby. In regards to Cheaney's lack of support…. his teammates included:
92-93
Pat Graham – 89 Mr Basketball – McDonalds AA(ranked 12th in US)
Greg Graham – McDonalds AA– (ranked 60th in US)
Damon Baily – 90 Mr Basketball (EA National HS BBall Player of Year) McDonalds AA
Cheaney (ranked 58th in US)
Henderson (ranked 6th in US) McDonalds AllAmerican
Nover (Indiana All Star team – as were all of the above players))
Evans
Chris Reynolds (ranked 48th in US)
Would have been seniors but transferred – #7 Funderburke, #44 Chris Lawson)

FOUR McDonalds All Americans and two other s that were top 60 in the US and Brian Evans……….not too shabby.

]]> By: DJW http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-12394 DJW Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:39:46 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-12394 Keep in mind that we are voting on the greatest Indiana University players of all time.<br><br> I'm not sure that we should use these player's NBA careers to measure their value to their I.U. careers.<br><br>I have been rating the players based on how they performed as members of their IU program and how during their I. U. careers they contibuted to I.U. success.<br><br>Am I using the wrong criteria on which to base my votes? Keep in mind that we are voting on the greatest Indiana University players of all time.

I'm not sure that we should use these player's NBA careers to measure their value to their I.U. careers.

I have been rating the players based on how they performed as members of their IU program and how during their I. U. careers they contibuted to I.U. success.

Am I using the wrong criteria on which to base my votes?

]]> By: DJW http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-31713 DJW Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:39:46 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-31713 Keep in mind that we are voting on the greatest Indiana University players of all time.<br><br> I'm not sure that we should use these player's NBA careers to measure their value to their I.U. careers.<br><br>I have been rating the players based on how they performed as members of their IU program and how during their I. U. careers they contibuted to I.U. success.<br><br>Am I using the wrong criteria on which to base my votes? Keep in mind that we are voting on the greatest Indiana University players of all time.

I'm not sure that we should use these player's NBA careers to measure their value to their I.U. careers.

I have been rating the players based on how they performed as members of their IU program and how during their I. U. careers they contibuted to I.U. success.

Am I using the wrong criteria on which to base my votes?

]]> By: TomCoverdaleIUHero http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-12388 TomCoverdaleIUHero Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:09:46 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-12388 i said that lol reread my post "but at least he can say he won 2 championships in the best era ever in the NBA" haha i said that lol reread my post “but at least he can say he won 2 championships in the best era ever in the NBA” haha

]]> By: TomCoverdaleIUHero http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-31711 TomCoverdaleIUHero Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:09:46 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-31711 i said that lol reread my post "but at least he can say he won 2 championships in the best era ever in the NBA" haha i said that lol reread my post “but at least he can say he won 2 championships in the best era ever in the NBA” haha

]]> By: B_MD http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/comment-page-1/#comment-12385 B_MD Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:30:50 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/08/18/ith-super-happy-fun-time-top-10-list-isiah-thomas/#comment-12385 Just replying to your "he didn't win many championships" comment. Two titles, especially back-to-back is plenty. Not a lot of guys lead teams to back-to-back titles. <br><br>I personally don't care for Isiah (although I think it's a huge plus to have him active in the program as an active supporter), but he is one of the greatest point guards of all time. Just replying to your “he didn't win many championships” comment. Two titles, especially back-to-back is plenty. Not a lot of guys lead teams to back-to-back titles.

I personally don't care for Isiah (although I think it's a huge plus to have him active in the program as an active supporter), but he is one of the greatest point guards of all time.

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