Comments on: Open thread: Friday the 13th in Seattle http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/ Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:51:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: JerryCT http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/comment-page-1/#comment-36768 JerryCT Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:24:59 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/#comment-36768 KS firing for the following reasons:<br><br>1. the stupid , one week , self imposed deadline to resolve a complicated mess<br>2. inability to schedule the news conf due to #1<br>3. no 'a priori' negotiation w NCAA on sanctions based on the "in season" firing<br>4. frenzy over the interim coach and what he should do<br>5. players' attitudes tanking and suspensions<br>6. poor team play and losses KS firing for the following reasons:

1. the stupid , one week , self imposed deadline to resolve a complicated mess
2. inability to schedule the news conf due to #1
3. no 'a priori' negotiation w NCAA on sanctions based on the “in season” firing
4. frenzy over the interim coach and what he should do
5. players' attitudes tanking and suspensions
6. poor team play and losses

]]> By: JerryCT http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/comment-page-1/#comment-13205 JerryCT Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:24:59 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/#comment-13205 KS firing for the following reasons:<br><br>1. the stupid , one week , self imposed deadline to resolve a complicated mess<br>2. inability to schedule the news conf due to #1<br>3. no 'a priori' negotiation w NCAA on sanctions based on the "in season" firing<br>4. frenzy over the interim coach and what he should do<br>5. players' attitudes tanking and suspensions<br>6. poor team play and losses KS firing for the following reasons:

1. the stupid , one week , self imposed deadline to resolve a complicated mess
2. inability to schedule the news conf due to #1
3. no 'a priori' negotiation w NCAA on sanctions based on the “in season” firing
4. frenzy over the interim coach and what he should do
5. players' attitudes tanking and suspensions
6. poor team play and losses

]]> By: Kelin Blab http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/comment-page-1/#comment-13200 Kelin Blab Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:25:51 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/#comment-13200 question to throw out here........<br><br>what was a bigger circus?<br><br>Mike Davis ending at IU? <br>KS firing?<br>Hiring of the new coach?<br><br>My vote is the hiring of the new coach.....given the fact.....all the names I heard I didn't like and when I heard Krueger was on a plane heading here I almost broke down in tears.<br><br>The Mike Davis sick day was pretty wild too.....<br><br>KS firing was ineveitable ............ question to throw out here……..

what was a bigger circus?

Mike Davis ending at IU?
KS firing?
Hiring of the new coach?

My vote is the hiring of the new coach…..given the fact…..all the names I heard I didn't like and when I heard Krueger was on a plane heading here I almost broke down in tears.

The Mike Davis sick day was pretty wild too…..

KS firing was ineveitable …………

]]> By: Hoosiergirl http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/comment-page-1/#comment-13186 Hoosiergirl Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:45:36 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/#comment-13186 :grin: :grin:

]]> By: MikeinNC http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/comment-page-1/#comment-13192 MikeinNC Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:39:53 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/#comment-13192 I don't see the point in penalizing us further, geez, I think we demonstrated that we were honest in reporting the infractions, that we suffered severe consequences, and that we have taken significant steps to cleanse the program. It's not like we are some corrupt football factory that stonewalled and covered things up every step of the way....if the NCAA is going to hammer us further, what's the message they send to schools about the incentive for being straightforward and transparent? Heck, a program might as well stonewall if the NCAA sends the message that you are still going to get clobbered even if you cooperate extensively and work hard to make amends.......think about how we've handled this compared to other scandals in the past.....I think the one solace we can take from all this is that we responded with a level of class and integrity that we can be proud of.....small comfort, I know.... I don't see the point in penalizing us further, geez, I think we demonstrated that we were honest in reporting the infractions, that we suffered severe consequences, and that we have taken significant steps to cleanse the program. It's not like we are some corrupt football factory that stonewalled and covered things up every step of the way….if the NCAA is going to hammer us further, what's the message they send to schools about the incentive for being straightforward and transparent? Heck, a program might as well stonewall if the NCAA sends the message that you are still going to get clobbered even if you cooperate extensively and work hard to make amends…….think about how we've handled this compared to other scandals in the past…..I think the one solace we can take from all this is that we responded with a level of class and integrity that we can be proud of…..small comfort, I know….

]]> By: Atwater http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/comment-page-1/#comment-13177 Atwater Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:54:40 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/#comment-13177 That is exactly why the Indiana team barely one. I'm thinking that Moore could have easily given them a 25-30 point margin of victory. That is exactly why the Indiana team barely one. I'm thinking that Moore could have easily given them a 25-30 point margin of victory.

]]> By: Kelin Blab http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/comment-page-1/#comment-13170 Kelin Blab Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:28:20 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/#comment-13170 Anyone pissed about Daniel Moore playing only 2 minutes in the Indiana All Star Game. Geez the kid can' t catch a break........... Anyone pissed about Daniel Moore playing only 2 minutes in the Indiana All Star Game. Geez the kid can' t catch a break………..

]]> By: BrianK http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/comment-page-1/#comment-13162 BrianK Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:52:58 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/#comment-13162 The thing that gets me is that USC has been caught twice with players being paid and the NCAA has essentially looked the other way. The NCAA reminds me of the Bud Selig Run MLB. Ridiculous. It just gets under my skin The thing that gets me is that USC has been caught twice with players being paid and the NCAA has essentially looked the other way. The NCAA reminds me of the Bud Selig Run MLB. Ridiculous. It just gets under my skin

]]> By: jgongora86 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/comment-page-1/#comment-13080 jgongora86 Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:10:12 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/#comment-13080 I meant we given ourselves a justified punishment, by docking sampson 1mill. Then fired sampson,took away a scholarship, and new recruiting stipulations. i don't disagre that we did something wrong, I just think that unlike other programs we steped up to the plate and punished ourselves. If the ncaa gives us further punishments I honestly don't think other Universitys don't have any incentive to fess up. I meant we given ourselves a justified punishment, by docking sampson 1mill. Then fired sampson,took away a scholarship, and new recruiting stipulations. i don't disagre that we did something wrong, I just think that unlike other programs we steped up to the plate and punished ourselves. If the ncaa gives us further punishments I honestly don't think other Universitys don't have any incentive to fess up.

]]> By: tberry http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/comment-page-1/#comment-13073 tberry Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:25:29 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/06/13/open-thread-friday-the-13th-in-seattle/#comment-13073 What do you mean, “We did everything we could to keep our program clean?” <br><br>According to other reports, IU did not monitor every month’s phone reports. If they had they would have seen the problem calls immediately and ended them. IU knew Sampson had cheated and were taking a chance on him but, still, they did not monitor him consistently.<br><br>IU does have a major part of the responsibility for this continuing mess. What do you mean, “We did everything we could to keep our program clean?”

According to other reports, IU did not monitor every month’s phone reports. If they had they would have seen the problem calls immediately and ended them. IU knew Sampson had cheated and were taking a chance on him but, still, they did not monitor him consistently.

IU does have a major part of the responsibility for this continuing mess.

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