Comments on: Kelvin Sampson responds to NCAA

By: HoosierSmitty

HoosierSmitty — Wed, 14 May 2008 03:23:20 +0000

Haven't stopped reading….just lots of papers to grade and tennis to coach…

Good to be welcomed back, though.

By: earl

earl — Wed, 14 May 2008 02:24:14 +0000

Pretty easy to catch just have the compliance group call the recruit to see if he has been contacted. Also we're talking about hundreds of calls so its not like they had to catch 1 illegal call. Lastly, this is the same exact rule he broke at Ok. so if you were the compliance group what rule do you think you would check to make sure it was being followed……

Everyone seems happy to let it all wash away since Sampson is gone and we have a coach we like. However the last few seasons have been thrown away not to mention the next few as we try to rebuild. Also there is the IU name, we can no longer say that we have always run a clean program. It shouldn't end at Sampson.

By: Alex

Alex — Wed, 14 May 2008 01:49:04 +0000

Smitty,

Good to see you around again.

By: MikeinNC

MikeinNC — Wed, 14 May 2008 00:07:56 +0000

Personally, (and this is based entirely on gut feeling and irresponsible speculation), I believe that maybe Greenspan had a whiff of what was going on with the phone call situation, and maybe he chose to let it go a little while – he might have even set things up originally to to be deliberately a little bit loose on this issue…the motive being that I don't believe for a minute that Greenspan wanted KS as his new coach, I think it was rammed down his throat by Herbert….and maybe old Alan decided the best way to get rid of KS was to give him a little rope to hang himself with on something relatively minor where he thought it might not have any negative impact for IU. Because, despite all the negative publicity, Greenspan is a pretty smart, savvy guy….far too smart to not have recognized the need for tight monitoring of the phone call situation given KS's history…it just doesn't make sense that they didn't have tighter monitoring in place. But with the specific termination clauses in KS's contract maybe Greenspan thought the best way to get rid of a bad hire would be to have that bad hire fire themselves – maybe even by somehow violating his contract without committing a major violation….like I said, this is all pure speculation. I guess I just needed to scratch the conspiracy theory itch this afternoon….

By: HoosierSmitty

HoosierSmitty — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:58:24 +0000

We can leave Sampson alone now…..he's already out of sports now that he's in the NBA.

By: ALH_00

ALH_00 — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:31:57 +0000

Totally agree. How can the compliance department ensure that rules are not being broken, other than having KS and his staff clear every telephone call with the compliance department PRIOR to making the call. That's absurd, much like KS' excuse that it was the compliance department's fault that he violated the rules.

By: Ben_M

Ben_M — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:59:54 +0000

I hope they put sampson in a rocket and send him to the moon

By: HoosierSmitty

HoosierSmitty — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:23:20 +0000

Haven't stopped reading….just lots of papers to grade and tennis to coach…

Good to be welcomed back, though.

By: earl

earl — Tue, 13 May 2008 19:24:14 +0000

By: Alex

Alex — Tue, 13 May 2008 18:49:04 +0000

Smitty,

Good to see you around again.

By: MikeinNC

MikeinNC — Tue, 13 May 2008 17:07:56 +0000

By: HoosierSmitty

HoosierSmitty — Tue, 13 May 2008 16:58:24 +0000

We can leave Sampson alone now…..he's already out of sports now that he's in the NBA.

By: ALH_00

ALH_00 — Tue, 13 May 2008 16:31:57 +0000

By: Ben_M

Ben_M — Tue, 13 May 2008 13:59:54 +0000

I hope they put sampson in a rocket and send him to the moon

By: Ben_M

Ben_M — Tue, 13 May 2008 12:57:24 +0000

I'll bet crean doesn't renew greenspan's scholarship..lol

By: Disco_Briscoe

Disco_Briscoe — Tue, 13 May 2008 12:55:46 +0000

I hope they put a 10+yr ban on Sampson with any involvement with a school. He's a real piece of sh*t.

By: tberry

tberry — Tue, 13 May 2008 11:44:33 +0000

In one respect Sampson is right. He should not be the only one going down for his sins. Greenspan and whomever the compliance officer should also be fired.

By: Alex

Alex — Tue, 13 May 2008 11:34:15 +0000

Did you happen to catch the names Jordan Crawford, Lance Stemler, Mike White and Eric Gordon? They're all in there in some capacity.

By: JerryCT

JerryCT — Tue, 13 May 2008 11:20:51 +0000

Also, many of you seem to have a negative POV on Greenspan. I have no bias about it and therefore I see no evidence yet of his failures other than the circle jerk in the KS firing which I thought was botched and amatuerish.

By: JerryCT

JerryCT — Tue, 13 May 2008 11:13:32 +0000

I know there are a lot of pages but since I have time I have read alot of those pages. Briefly :

1. Coaches were using home phones and personal cell phones which donot get caught by the IU compliance software.
2. Coaches knew that these phone calls were supposed to be reported on log sheets but they did not report them
3. If IU found a call in its investigation that was " inconclusive" they counted it as a violation such that actual REAL violations are lower than reported
4. Passing of phones and 3 way calls do not show up clearly as violations since you cannot trace either who was on the call or who was called
5. IU states that phone call violations were actually not serious, secondary violations, that yielded no competitive advantage
6. Serious violations are the lying about the calls

It appears that willful lying and hiding calls is easily able to "game" the compliance system which relies on ethical conduct.

Even so I hope KS dazzles them with his feet and mouth such that they are so confused about who to blame that the NCAA just wants to move this off the books.