I only disagree on one thing, DUMES. He is probably our best 3 pt scorer and that will be impossible in Crean's scheme to keep on the bench. Not only was he dynamite at East Mich per minutes played his 3pt shots last year in Juco would have been an IU record.

From the videos I have seen of Roth's shot it needs to be radically altered in order to score against tight D plus his game may not be versatile. I think he sits and Dumes stars both years.

I only disagree on one thing, DUMES. He is probably our best 3 pt scorer and that will be impossible in Crean's scheme to keep on the bench. Not only was he dynamite at East Mich per minutes played his 3pt shots last year in Juco would have been an IU record.

From the videos I have seen of Roth's shot it needs to be radically altered in order to score against tight D plus his game may not be versatile. I think he sits and Dumes stars both years.

Dumes will obviously see the floor alot this year but with the addition of Maurice Creek his minutes are going to go way down……and Demetrius Walker said IU was his number 1 right now i remember when this kid was getting hyped out of middle school and now is only a 3 star recruit but has tremendous upside looks like a terrific player

Dumes will obviously see the floor alot this year but with the addition of Maurice Creek his minutes are going to go way down……and Demetrius Walker said IU was his number 1 right now i remember when this kid was getting hyped out of middle school and now is only a 3 star recruit but has tremendous upside looks like a terrific player

Yes sorry, I forgot about Creek but Dumes will be a senior leader not a freshman. I still think Roth has the most work to do for PT. You left Dumes completely off your list . Have you played against or seen any of these guys up close ? Just wondering

Yes sorry, I forgot about Creek but Dumes will be a senior leader not a freshman. I still think Roth has the most work to do for PT. You left Dumes completely off your list . Have you played against or seen any of these guys up close ? Just wondering

Yes sorry, I forgot about Creek but Dumes will be a senior leader not a freshman. I still think Roth has the most work to do for PT. You left Dumes completely off your list . Have you played against or seen any of these guys up close ? Just wondering

No but im just saying right now Crawford is the starter at shooting guard and VJIII is going to start point and i see him coming off the bench this year but next year with the arrival of Creek i just see his MPG dropping just my thoughts from what i hear all Dumes can do is shoot if he is more then that he will get more PT but if you know something about this kid or know where i can see video of him let me know because i have seen nothing just herd he was a great shooter

No but im just saying right now Crawford is the starter at shooting guard and VJIII is going to start point and i see him coming off the bench this year but next year with the arrival of Creek i just see his MPG dropping just my thoughts from what i hear all Dumes can do is shoot if he is more then that he will get more PT but if you know something about this kid or know where i can see video of him let me know because i have seen nothing just herd he was a great shooter

I can understand some of you scratching your head about the offer to Demetrius Walker but not Rivers. IU only has 1 PG on the roster come next season and that will be Verdell Jones. I'm sure next season Crawford and Dumes will see some time there but there not PG's.

So IU needs another PG and Rivers would be a much better fit in Crean's system then in the slow down offense Georgetown runs. He's a great defensive PG and has great size and in a guard based offense he will flourish.

Nick Williams is a SG but with his strength and versatility he's more than capable of being a SF especially in Crean's offense. I expect him early on to see more time at SF because of lack of players and that McGee will be needed this season to be more of a PF.

No disrespect but Matt Roth was recruited as a specialist, a shooter and thats what he is, a shooter off the bench and there is no chance that he will ever play the #3.

Maybe Crean sticks with a 3 guard offense beyond this year and if thats the case then IU already has most of there big men because comboforwards McGee and Elston would be playing as PF along with Bobby C.

At Center IU will have Pritchard and possibly Sutton so thats 5 players that will be 4 and 5's.

The point being is that another PG is needed, plain and simple whether the team is going with a 3 guard offense or a traditional lineup with true SF's PG is a need.

So question adding another SG not a PG.

I can understand some of you scratching your head about the offer to Demetrius Walker but not Rivers. IU only has 1 PG on the roster come next season and that will be Verdell Jones. I'm sure next season Crawford and Dumes will see some time there but there not PG's.

So IU needs another PG and Rivers would be a much better fit in Crean's system then in the slow down offense Georgetown runs. He's a great defensive PG and has great size and in a guard based offense he will flourish.

Nick Williams is a SG but with his strength and versatility he's more than capable of being a SF especially in Crean's offense. I expect him early on to see more time at SF because of lack of players and that McGee will be needed this season to be more of a PF.

No disrespect but Matt Roth was recruited as a specialist, a shooter and thats what he is, a shooter off the bench and there is no chance that he will ever play the #3.

Maybe Crean sticks with a 3 guard offense beyond this year and if thats the case then IU already has most of there big men because comboforwards McGee and Elston would be playing as PF along with Bobby C.

At Center IU will have Pritchard and possibly Sutton so thats 5 players that will be 4 and 5's.

The point being is that another PG is needed, plain and simple whether the team is going with a 3 guard offense or a traditional lineup with true SF's PG is a need.

So question adding another SG not a PG.

I can understand some of you scratching your head about the offer to Demetrius Walker but not Rivers. IU only has 1 PG on the roster come next season and that will be Verdell Jones. I'm sure next season Crawford and Dumes will see some time there but there not PG's.

So IU needs another PG and Rivers would be a much better fit in Crean's system then in the slow down offense Georgetown runs. He's a great defensive PG and has great size and in a guard based offense he will flourish.

Nick Williams is a SG but with his strength and versatility he's more than capable of being a SF especially in Crean's offense. I expect him early on to see more time at SF because of lack of players and that McGee will be needed this season to be more of a PF.

No disrespect but Matt Roth was recruited as a specialist, a shooter and thats what he is, a shooter off the bench and there is no chance that he will ever play the #3.

Maybe Crean sticks with a 3 guard offense beyond this year and if thats the case then IU already has most of there big men because comboforwards McGee and Elston would be playing as PF along with Bobby C.

At Center IU will have Pritchard and possibly Sutton so thats 5 players that will be 4 and 5's.

The point being is that another PG is needed, plain and simple whether the team is going with a 3 guard offense or a traditional lineup with true SF's PG is a need.

So question adding another SG not a PG.

I see eltson and creek to be starters……………..I don't think pritchard is going to start after this season is over

I see eltson and creek to be starters……………..I don't think pritchard is going to start after this season is over

Pritchard will start this dude is a brawler he's big rebounds and knows how to play

Pritchard will start this dude is a brawler he's big rebounds and knows how to play

Pritchard will start this dude is a brawler he's big rebounds and knows how to play

Can he bring back Ewing jr back with him cause that would be nice. I like this pick up a gaurd that can shut it down on defense. Sounds like we just got Ratliff back but his spare time will be spent in the gym and studying, not smoking weed, drinking, and partying.

Can he bring back Ewing jr back with him cause that would be nice. I like this pick up a gaurd that can shut it down on defense. Sounds like we just got Ratliff back but his spare time will be spent in the gym and studying, not smoking weed, drinking, and partying.

Matt Roth at SF. He is too short and not very fast. Maurice Creek makes more sense. Reverse Creek- 6'5' SF and Roth-6'2' SG.

And how can you say that Devan Dumes won't see the floor? You have not seen him play. He is from Indianapolis and played against great competion such as the likes of Greg Oden, Mike Conley, Eric Gordon, do I have to go on? Indianapolis is enough said. Dumes was also named all-Marion County his senior year with yes-you-guest it-Oden and Conley, etc.. He also played a year of D-1 against solid competition, and he also played for a very good JC program(Vincennes) in Indiana.

Finally, Dumes is an outstanding shooter and solid with his decision making skills.
So if you are selling Devan Dumes short, then you are a dead wrong!!!

Matt Roth at SF. He is too short and not very fast. Maurice Creek makes more sense. Reverse Creek- 6'5' SF and Roth-6'2' SG.

And how can you say that Devan Dumes won't see the floor? You have not seen him play. He is from Indianapolis and played against great competion such as the likes of Greg Oden, Mike Conley, Eric Gordon, do I have to go on? Indianapolis is enough said. Dumes was also named all-Marion County his senior year with yes-you-guest it-Oden and Conley, etc.. He also played a year of D-1 against solid competition, and he also played for a very good JC program(Vincennes) in Indiana.

Finally, Dumes is an outstanding shooter and solid with his decision making skills.
So if you are selling Devan Dumes short, then you are a dead wrong!!!

Matt Roth at SF. He is too short and not very fast. Maurice Creek makes more sense. Reverse Creek- 6'5' SF and Roth-6'2' SG.

And how can you say that Devan Dumes won't see the floor? You have not seen him play. He is from Indianapolis and played against great competion such as the likes of Greg Oden, Mike Conley, Eric Gordon, do I have to go on? Indianapolis is enough said. Dumes was also named all-Marion County his senior year with yes-you-guest it-Oden and Conley, etc.. He also played a year of D-1 against solid competition, and he also played for a very good JC program(Vincennes) in Indiana.

Finally, Dumes is an outstanding shooter and solid with his decision making skills.
So if you are selling Devan Dumes short, then you are a dead wrong!!!

hearing and reading more about Sutton, it is sounding better and more likely he could be a hoosier. Seems to come from a good family and a very very intelligent kid. Understands the IU traditions and history…..gotta love the subway story he told…

hearing and reading more about Sutton, it is sounding better and more likely he could be a hoosier. Seems to come from a good family and a very very intelligent kid. Understands the IU traditions and history…..gotta love the subway story he told…

BTown40,

I'll definitely try to put something together soon. Haven't been around the computer much this weekend with it being Mother's Day and all.