Comments on: Report: Devan Dumes commits to Indiana http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/ Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: luckyone http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-39043 luckyone Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:15:35 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-39043 I graduated high school with Devan Dumes and I must say Decatur had its best high school basketball in years with him leading the way. Given we were no state champions, but Dumes put up star player numbers and was on the all state 1st team twice. So if Crean is looking for a good solid backup, hes going down the right path by picking up Dumes. He's quick off the ball, a great shooter, an excellent defender, and definitely plays his heart out. Give this guy a chance, and im sure you wont regret it. I graduated high school with Devan Dumes and I must say Decatur had its best high school basketball in years with him leading the way. Given we were no state champions, but Dumes put up star player numbers and was on the all state 1st team twice. So if Crean is looking for a good solid backup, hes going down the right path by picking up Dumes. He's quick off the ball, a great shooter, an excellent defender, and definitely plays his heart out. Give this guy a chance, and im sure you wont regret it.

]]> By: luckyone http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-10376 luckyone Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:15:35 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-10376 I graduated high school with Devan Dumes and I must say Decatur had its best high school basketball in years with him leading the way. Given we were no state champions, but Dumes put up star player numbers and was on the all state 1st team twice. So if Crean is looking for a good solid backup, hes going down the right path by picking up Dumes. He's quick off the ball, a great shooter, an excellent defender, and definitely plays his heart out. Give this guy a chance, and im sure you wont regret it. I graduated high school with Devan Dumes and I must say Decatur had its best high school basketball in years with him leading the way. Given we were no state champions, but Dumes put up star player numbers and was on the all state 1st team twice. So if Crean is looking for a good solid backup, hes going down the right path by picking up Dumes. He's quick off the ball, a great shooter, an excellent defender, and definitely plays his heart out. Give this guy a chance, and im sure you wont regret it.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-62821 Anonymous Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:59:00 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-62821 The guys over at IUplanet talked to his Vincennes coach. Sounds like a good player and a great pickup! http://iuplanet.com/forum/iuplanet-hoosier-news/15383-iuplanet-talks-vincennes-coach-everick-sullivan-about-iu-recruit-devan-dumes.html The guys over at IUplanet talked to his Vincennes coach. Sounds like a good player and a great pickup!

http://iuplanet.com/forum/iuplanet-hoosier-news/15383-iuplanet-talks-vincennes-coach-everick-sullivan-about-iu-recruit-devan-dumes.html

]]> By: Matt_J http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-10372 Matt_J Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:19:49 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-10372 Basically, what your stats are showing is that Crawford was a much smarter player than Gordon. Those higher ratios and percentages shows that he was taking open looks, thinking about what he could do, and taking smart, good shots. Too often with Gordon, it just seemed that he was going to shoot it, no matter where on the floor he was standing. This isn't a knock against EJ so much as it is a scathing review of his "coaches". Basically, what your stats are showing is that Crawford was a much smarter player than Gordon. Those higher ratios and percentages shows that he was taking open looks, thinking about what he could do, and taking smart, good shots. Too often with Gordon, it just seemed that he was going to shoot it, no matter where on the floor he was standing. This isn't a knock against EJ so much as it is a scathing review of his “coaches”.

]]> By: B_MD http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-10369 B_MD Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:52:26 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-10369 Add me to the list. I think Crawford showed enough his freshmen year to believe that with the right coaching he can be a top player in the Big Ten for the next few years. Add me to the list. I think Crawford showed enough his freshmen year to believe that with the right coaching he can be a top player in the Big Ten for the next few years.

]]> By: Ben_M http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-10374 Ben_M Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:52:09 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-10374 WE SIGNED NICK WILLIAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 WE SIGNED NICK WILLIAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

]]> By: TomCoverdaleIUHero http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-10367 TomCoverdaleIUHero Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:22:55 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-10367 I love Crawford and have loved him all year. People on here have been giving him more scrutiny then deserved, he might have turned the ball over a little bit but remember he is a feshman, he may have made many mental lapses but he is a freshman. He had flashes against Minnesota, Michigan State at home, and Kentucky of just exactly how good this guy can be. He can shoot just as well as EJ, Crawford is probably more athletic and a better ball handler. You guys wait until me and Jerry are right about Mr. Jordan Crawford here in a few years he is going to be a stud. I love Crawford and have loved him all year. People on here have been giving him more scrutiny then deserved, he might have turned the ball over a little bit but remember he is a feshman, he may have made many mental lapses but he is a freshman. He had flashes against Minnesota, Michigan State at home, and Kentucky of just exactly how good this guy can be. He can shoot just as well as EJ, Crawford is probably more athletic and a better ball handler. You guys wait until me and Jerry are right about Mr. Jordan Crawford here in a few years he is going to be a stud.

]]> By: JerryCT http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-10365 JerryCT Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:43:51 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-10365 No need to wait 3 years. Despite playing 70% of Gordon's minutes it might amaze you to know that Crawford had:<br>- higher FG %<br>- higher 3 pt FG %<br>- Higher Reb/game<br>- Higher assist/TO ratio<br>- Same assists/game<br><br>He also was the guard most often forced more to defend forwards( not counting Ellis). You probably did not check the season stats ..........so , now's the time. No need to wait 3 years. Despite playing 70% of Gordon's minutes it might amaze you to know that Crawford had:
- higher FG %
- higher 3 pt FG %
- Higher Reb/game
- Higher assist/TO ratio
- Same assists/game

He also was the guard most often forced more to defend forwards( not counting Ellis). You probably did not check the season stats ……….so , now's the time.

]]> By: Ben_M http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-10363 Ben_M Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:33:39 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-10363 whats the word on stephenson, dennis, watford, and van treese? These guys would round out a nice little recruiting class. Then add Bouchie and Eltson....wow now that would be a class. whats the word on stephenson, dennis, watford, and van treese? These guys would round out a nice little recruiting class. Then add Bouchie and Eltson….wow now that would be a class.

]]> By: ricbraun http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-10341 ricbraun Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:23:03 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-10341 excellent point excellent point

]]> By: ricbraun http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-10356 ricbraun Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:22:02 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-10356 You would be surprised. Winning the "right way" is actually asking a lot these days. Every program for every sport cuts corners along the way, some just do it worse than others. It is actually not even always the program, boosters can be extremely shady and have a negative influence on young atheltes<br><br>Armon could potentially be the difference between a winning record and a losing record. I do think Crawford will become a good player, but we just can't expect that to be a certainty, especially given how it took his brother 4 years to get it together. asking jordan next year to carry the load is not something we want to do You would be surprised. Winning the “right way” is actually asking a lot these days. Every program for every sport cuts corners along the way, some just do it worse than others. It is actually not even always the program, boosters can be extremely shady and have a negative influence on young atheltes

Armon could potentially be the difference between a winning record and a losing record. I do think Crawford will become a good player, but we just can't expect that to be a certainty, especially given how it took his brother 4 years to get it together. asking jordan next year to carry the load is not something we want to do

]]> By: hoosierfan27 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-10362 hoosierfan27 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:50:17 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-10362 Crawford will be a better all around player than Gordon, that's hilarious. look back at that comment in about three years Crawford will be a better all around player than Gordon, that's hilarious. look back at that comment in about three years

]]> By: JerryCT http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-10352 JerryCT Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:27:18 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-10352 Amen Amen

]]> By: B_MD http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-10350 B_MD Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:12:43 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-10350 You had me until the stuff about academics. One thing that has bothered me lately is reading all of the, "this is what we need, Indiana kids that want to play for the front of the jersey, not guys looking to leave right away for the NBA." <br><br>Listen, it's nice having the Carmel kid on the end of the bench, but if we want to get back to elite status where we're competing year in and year out for championships, then we need the top recruits no matter where they're from. Look at the rosters in the Final Four they're littered with 5-star recruits and McDonald's All-Americans, and those four schools have been consistently at the top of the ranking for the last 8-10 years or longer.<br><br>The Indiana kids we need to come back to IU are the Oden's, Conley's, May's and Zeller's of the world. You had me until the stuff about academics. One thing that has bothered me lately is reading all of the, “this is what we need, Indiana kids that want to play for the front of the jersey, not guys looking to leave right away for the NBA.”

Listen, it's nice having the Carmel kid on the end of the bench, but if we want to get back to elite status where we're competing year in and year out for championships, then we need the top recruits no matter where they're from. Look at the rosters in the Final Four they're littered with 5-star recruits and McDonald's All-Americans, and those four schools have been consistently at the top of the ranking for the last 8-10 years or longer.

The Indiana kids we need to come back to IU are the Oden's, Conley's, May's and Zeller's of the world.

]]> By: Matt_J http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-10343 Matt_J Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:56:48 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-10343 Plus, it's much better to build a team rather than have a team of really good players. You can have a star-studded line-up from top to bottom, but if they can't function as one unit, then what's the purpose? To say you have them? Hooray. Plus, it's much better to build a team rather than have a team of really good players. You can have a star-studded line-up from top to bottom, but if they can't function as one unit, then what's the purpose? To say you have them? Hooray.

]]> By: Matt_J http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-10340 Matt_J Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:54:51 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-10340 It's not so much what we as fans think of the kid's game as to whether he's a one-and-done, it's what the kid thinks of himself. It's not so much what we as fans think of the kid's game as to whether he's a one-and-done, it's what the kid thinks of himself.

]]> By: Matt_J http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-10336 Matt_J Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:51:43 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-10336 Maybe he's also already heard something that the rest of us haven't about Holman and others, and he'd rather not field a team of walk ons. Maybe he's also already heard something that the rest of us haven't about Holman and others, and he'd rather not field a team of walk ons.

]]> By: JerryCT http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-10360 JerryCT Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:29:46 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-10360 Crean has a 86% graduation rate among black student athletes. i am confident that he will dramatically reduce the risks in the academic lives of the kids. As a result if this is Basset's problem then he will be back.<br><br>I personally believe that Crawford is headed toward becoming a fantastic player, better all around than Gordon, and what we need right now is scoring down low Crean has a 86% graduation rate among black student athletes. i am confident that he will dramatically reduce the risks in the academic lives of the kids. As a result if this is Basset's problem then he will be back.

I personally believe that Crawford is headed toward becoming a fantastic player, better all around than Gordon, and what we need right now is scoring down low

]]> By: dale11 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-10358 dale11 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:54:18 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-10358 I read in the star today his name is spelled Devan, not Devon. I read in the star today his name is spelled Devan, not Devon.

]]> By: Kelin Blab http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/comment-page-1/#comment-10354 Kelin Blab Mon, 21 Apr 2008 00:08:35 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/20/report-devon-dumes-commits-to-indiana/#comment-10354 ricbraun...academics may not be high on your list but I do believe your "we want Bassett" argument centers around....ACADEMICS. There is a reason Crean hasn't come out and said he is on the team it is waiting for that all important report card! <br><br>Yes winning is important but winning got us in this position we are in....I want to win the right way with the right coach right players doing the RIGHT thing on and off the court...which isn't too much to ask these days. <br><br>Armon would be helpful but how many games is he worth next year???? If we had him great if not I am fine with that too. I do believe Jordan Crawford could be a great big ten player, we saw major potential in him and actual growth during the season ...even with minimal coaching from KS. ricbraun…academics may not be high on your list but I do believe your “we want Bassett” argument centers around….ACADEMICS. There is a reason Crean hasn't come out and said he is on the team it is waiting for that all important report card!

Yes winning is important but winning got us in this position we are in….I want to win the right way with the right coach right players doing the RIGHT thing on and off the court…which isn't too much to ask these days.

Armon would be helpful but how many games is he worth next year???? If we had him great if not I am fine with that too. I do believe Jordan Crawford could be a great big ten player, we saw major potential in him and actual growth during the season …even with minimal coaching from KS.

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