Bennie Seltzer, Kelvin Sampson and Indiana

  • 04/10/2008 12:58 pm in

seltb.jpgYou see that gentleman to your right behind Kelvin Sampson? That’s Bennie Seltzer. Seltzer played at Washington State under Sampson in the early 90’s and then spent nine seasons on Sampson’s staff at Oklahoma before joining Tom Crean’s staff at Marquette the past two seasons. (He also played professionally in Turkey, Venezuela, Poland and Holland.)

And now, it appears Seltzer will be joining Crean in Bloomington, according to Terry Hutchens of the Indianapolis Star:

Crean appears close to hiring two assistant coaches who were on his staff at Marquette. Tim Buckley, a former Ball State coach, spent last week in Bloomington helping Crean begin the recruiting process. This week, Bennie Seltzer has been seen with Crean as well.

Seltzer spent the past two years at Marquette. The nine seasons before that, he was on former IU coach Kelvin Sampson’s staff at Oklahoma. The NCAA punished Oklahoma for making impermissible phone calls to recruits during Sampson’s tenure, but IU said Seltzer was not involved in any of the infractions.

There are two ways I think fans are going to react to Seltzer coming to IU. The first is the “Tom Crean can do no wrong” approach that most of us have taken on. You know, the one where we all put on our candy striped sunglasses and let the man work his magic.

Contrastingly, the other contingency of fans will likely ask the following questions: Do we really need a Kelvin Sampson disciple at IU? Haven’t we already had enough of Sampson to last us the rest of our lives and then some? Regardless of IU’s denial that Seltzer was involved with any of the phone call antics at Oklahoma, if IU is doing all it can to distance itself from Mr. Sanctions himself, then this is a curious move. Surely there are other qualified options to fill out the coaching staff, no?

It’ll be interesting to see how this all shakes out if Seltzer is indeed hired. Crean will have some questions, like the ones above, to answer and we’ll all be listening closely for the answers.

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  • Kelin Blab

    I don't have a problem with Bennie for the same reason I wouldn't have a problem with Ray McCallum staying. I judge them on their own merit and not on the idiotic association with KS……

  • TomCoverdaleIUHero

    I totally agree and Ray McCallum is the inside track to his son who is an excellent ball player lol

  • Kelin Blab

    not to beat dead horse and my ill will towards KS but he really screwed things up at IU and also for his son who is trying to break into coaching with his dads name and inititials…..poor kid.

  • Is he still a grad assistant or will he be moving on?

  • easy

    I agree he should be judged on his own merit. Obviously Crean feels comfortable with him, having worked with him before. I agree that that is important, considering all of the restrictions, you need people you trust. If Crean had any reason to believe that Seltzer would hurt him and his desire to restore the IU legacy, I don't think he would bring him here. I guess that puts me in the “Crean Can Do No Wrong” camp if that's what you want to call it. But I just think that the new coach should be given freedom to make decisions he is comfortable with.

  • JerryCT

    I like the idea of bringing in a team that has worked together before. He is apparently innocent of any wrong doing at OU so there is no reason not to give him a warm reception as part of a new IU program.

  • B_MD

    At this point, from everything I've read about him and heard him say, I trust Crean to make the right call. I really believe he cares about IU basketball and the image of the program.

    At the same time, I'd be lying if I said that this doesn't make me a little nervous.

  • TomCoverdaleIUHero

    Trust i hate KS for what he did to Indiana us as fans the players his family and himself it is just ridiculous he doesnt deserve to ever coach again

  • tberry

    Who cares if an assistant worked for Sampson? Guilt by association is stupid. Evidently, Crean thinks he is good and that is good enough for me.

  • I say let er' flicker

  • bz

    i trust coach crean, but i am VERY uncomfortable bringing in someone who is so closely associated with sampson.

    i have no problem with judging him by his association with ks. ks wreaked some much havoc on the iu program that anything related to him should be considered a cancer. it's not a double standard. iu will be synonymous with ks for quite a while. he will be talked about, along with the damage he did, for years to come. as many years as he set us back, i don't want to have anything to do with him.

  • BTOWN40

    Did Seltzer and McCallum work together at Oklahoma, if so does this play a hand in keeping McCallum perhaps, especially if they had a good working relationship and Seltzer can tell Crean what kind of person McCallum is……..any thoughts

  • Believe they did. Not sure what effect that will have, if any, on Ray staying.

  • ronb

    IU was hurt badly because of the Sampson era. It is very unfortunate for everyone. I do find it interesting that coaches, for the most part (Weber & Painter excluded), are not commenting about Sampson like the fans and the media. Crean and his assistants are all friends with Sampson as are many Big 12 and Big 10 coaches including Bob Knight and Tom Izzo. So my point is we can't tell Crean who to pick. We can hope that any influence Sampson had on these guys was good and that coach Crean knows what he is doing. Its his team now.

  • Agree with you and for the record, I think Crean should get the benefit of the doubt with Bennie. However, I do think he'll be questioned a bit by fans and media due to his ties to Sampson. I think Buckley will do a stellar job at IU as will Seltzer.

  • Kelin Blab

    A couple of things………..

    Bennie, Ray, and Buck would be a helluva assistant team for IU and recruiting indiana. I hope like hell ray mac stays.

    I heard on the radio that during final 4 weekend some of the local guys talked about KS off the record and coaches had plenty to say that wasn't good about KS…ofcourse you can't say much against the fraternity on air but it seemed as if people thought he was an arrogant $#%^^

  • Kelin Blab

    Wow what could have been in 09'……….

    G. Armon Bassett
    G. Jordan Crawford
    F. J.Ellis
    F. Devin Ebanks
    C. Tyler Zeller (whom I thought would come to IU if the nonsense hadn't happened again)

    off the bench: BUD MACKEY, Matt Roth, Tom Pritchard, Eli Holman, Terell Holloway, B-Mac, Deandre, and Kyle T.

  • MPmike

    Terrell Holloway would have not committed to IU if Bud Mackey would have came. Holloway took Mackey's scholarship when IU stripped it away.

  • I say let er' flicker

  • bz

    i trust coach crean, but i am VERY uncomfortable bringing in someone who is so closely associated with sampson.

    i have no problem with judging him by his association with ks. ks wreaked some much havoc on the iu program that anything related to him should be considered a cancer. it's not a double standard. iu will be synonymous with ks for quite a while. he will be talked about, along with the damage he did, for years to come. as many years as he set us back, i don't want to have anything to do with him.

  • BTOWN40

    Did Seltzer and McCallum work together at Oklahoma, if so does this play a hand in keeping McCallum perhaps, especially if they had a good working relationship and Seltzer can tell Crean what kind of person McCallum is……..any thoughts

  • Believe they did. Not sure what effect that will have, if any, on Ray staying.

  • ronb

    IU was hurt badly because of the Sampson era. It is very unfortunate for everyone. I do find it interesting that coaches, for the most part (Weber & Painter excluded), are not commenting about Sampson like the fans and the media. Crean and his assistants are all friends with Sampson as are many Big 12 and Big 10 coaches including Bob Knight and Tom Izzo. So my point is we can't tell Crean who to pick. We can hope that any influence Sampson had on these guys was good and that coach Crean knows what he is doing. Its his team now.

  • Agree with you and for the record, I think Crean should get the benefit of the doubt with Bennie. However, I do think he'll be questioned a bit by fans and media due to his ties to Sampson. I think Buckley will do a stellar job at IU as will Seltzer.

  • Kelin Blab

    A couple of things………..

    Bennie, Ray, and Buck would be a helluva assistant team for IU and recruiting indiana. I hope like hell ray mac stays.

    I heard on the radio that during final 4 weekend some of the local guys talked about KS off the record and coaches had plenty to say that wasn't good about KS…ofcourse you can't say much against the fraternity on air but it seemed as if people thought he was an arrogant $#%^^

  • Kelin Blab

    Wow what could have been in 09'……….

    G. Armon Bassett
    G. Jordan Crawford
    F. J.Ellis
    F. Devin Ebanks
    C. Tyler Zeller (whom I thought would come to IU if the nonsense hadn't happened again)

    off the bench: BUD MACKEY, Matt Roth, Tom Pritchard, Eli Holman, Terell Holloway, B-Mac, Deandre, and Kyle T.

  • MPmike

    Terrell Holloway would have not committed to IU if Bud Mackey would have came. Holloway took Mackey's scholarship when IU stripped it away.