Comments on: Herald-Times: E-mails take full burden off Greenspan for Sampson hire http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/ Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:48:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: tberry http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-40158 tberry Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:32:44 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-40158 I bash Lynch because he is simply filling a role and should get no personal credit for IU meager successes last season. After Hep's death any of the assistants could have done as well or better.<br><br>Lynches personal career has be mediocre at best and there is no reason that one should believe that magically he can take Indiana to anything other than continued mediocrity.<br><br>His hire as an interim coach was understandable but his hire for the permanent coach was unforgivable. I bash Lynch because he is simply filling a role and should get no personal credit for IU meager successes last season. After Hep's death any of the assistants could have done as well or better.

Lynches personal career has be mediocre at best and there is no reason that one should believe that magically he can take Indiana to anything other than continued mediocrity.

His hire as an interim coach was understandable but his hire for the permanent coach was unforgivable.

]]> By: Ryan_Btown http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-40159 Ryan_Btown Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:59:59 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-40159 You are correct. Not changing my mind. Lose lose situation for me. You hire him, you go down too. You think he's a bad hire, get on record and say it. Wouldn't be the first time the AD said it wasn't necessarily his fault for the hire. It's not unprecedented. If you thought it was bad, at least get on the record. If not, tough shit, sorry buddy, the buck stops here. You are correct. Not changing my mind. Lose lose situation for me. You hire him, you go down too. You think he's a bad hire, get on record and say it. Wouldn't be the first time the AD said it wasn't necessarily his fault for the hire. It's not unprecedented. If you thought it was bad, at least get on the record. If not, tough shit, sorry buddy, the buck stops here.

]]> By: tberry http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-14333 tberry Fri, 04 Apr 2008 09:32:44 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-14333 I bash Lynch because he is simply filling a role and should get no personal credit for IU meager successes last season. After Hep's death any of the assistants could have done as well or better.<br><br>Lynches personal career has be mediocre at best and there is no reason that one should believe that magically he can take Indiana to anything other than continued mediocrity.<br><br>His hire as an interim coach was understandable but his hire for the permanent coach was unforgivable. I bash Lynch because he is simply filling a role and should get no personal credit for IU meager successes last season. After Hep's death any of the assistants could have done as well or better.

Lynches personal career has be mediocre at best and there is no reason that one should believe that magically he can take Indiana to anything other than continued mediocrity.

His hire as an interim coach was understandable but his hire for the permanent coach was unforgivable.

]]> By: tberry http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-25759 tberry Fri, 04 Apr 2008 09:32:44 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-25759 I bash Lynch because he is simply filling a role and should get no personal credit for IU meager successes last season. After Hep's death any of the assistants could have done as well or better.<br><br>Lynches personal career has be mediocre at best and there is no reason that one should believe that magically he can take Indiana to anything other than continued mediocrity.<br><br>His hire as an interim coach was understandable but his hire for the permanent coach was unforgivable. I bash Lynch because he is simply filling a role and should get no personal credit for IU meager successes last season. After Hep's death any of the assistants could have done as well or better.

Lynches personal career has be mediocre at best and there is no reason that one should believe that magically he can take Indiana to anything other than continued mediocrity.

His hire as an interim coach was understandable but his hire for the permanent coach was unforgivable.

]]> By: tberry http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-34369 tberry Fri, 04 Apr 2008 09:32:44 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-34369 I bash Lynch because he is simply filling a role and should get no personal credit for IU meager successes last season. After Hep's death any of the assistants could have done as well or better.<br><br>Lynches personal career has be mediocre at best and there is no reason that one should believe that magically he can take Indiana to anything other than continued mediocrity.<br><br>His hire as an interim coach was understandable but his hire for the permanent coach was unforgivable. I bash Lynch because he is simply filling a role and should get no personal credit for IU meager successes last season. After Hep's death any of the assistants could have done as well or better.

Lynches personal career has be mediocre at best and there is no reason that one should believe that magically he can take Indiana to anything other than continued mediocrity.

His hire as an interim coach was understandable but his hire for the permanent coach was unforgivable.

]]> By: Ryan_Btown http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-14342 Ryan_Btown Fri, 04 Apr 2008 03:59:59 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-14342 You are correct. Not changing my mind. Lose lose situation for me. You hire him, you go down too. You think he's a bad hire, get on record and say it. Wouldn't be the first time the AD said it wasn't necessarily his fault for the hire. It's not unprecedented. If you thought it was bad, at least get on the record. If not, tough shit, sorry buddy, the buck stops here. You are correct. Not changing my mind. Lose lose situation for me. You hire him, you go down too. You think he's a bad hire, get on record and say it. Wouldn't be the first time the AD said it wasn't necessarily his fault for the hire. It's not unprecedented. If you thought it was bad, at least get on the record. If not, tough shit, sorry buddy, the buck stops here.

]]> By: Ryan_Btown http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-25760 Ryan_Btown Fri, 04 Apr 2008 03:59:59 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-25760 You are correct. Not changing my mind. Lose lose situation for me. You hire him, you go down too. You think he's a bad hire, get on record and say it. Wouldn't be the first time the AD said it wasn't necessarily his fault for the hire. It's not unprecedented. If you thought it was bad, at least get on the record. If not, tough shit, sorry buddy, the buck stops here. You are correct. Not changing my mind. Lose lose situation for me. You hire him, you go down too. You think he's a bad hire, get on record and say it. Wouldn't be the first time the AD said it wasn't necessarily his fault for the hire. It's not unprecedented. If you thought it was bad, at least get on the record. If not, tough shit, sorry buddy, the buck stops here.

]]> By: Ryan_Btown http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-34370 Ryan_Btown Fri, 04 Apr 2008 03:59:59 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-34370 You are correct. Not changing my mind. Lose lose situation for me. You hire him, you go down too. You think he's a bad hire, get on record and say it. Wouldn't be the first time the AD said it wasn't necessarily his fault for the hire. It's not unprecedented. If you thought it was bad, at least get on the record. If not, tough shit, sorry buddy, the buck stops here. You are correct. Not changing my mind. Lose lose situation for me. You hire him, you go down too. You think he's a bad hire, get on record and say it. Wouldn't be the first time the AD said it wasn't necessarily his fault for the hire. It's not unprecedented. If you thought it was bad, at least get on the record. If not, tough shit, sorry buddy, the buck stops here.

]]> By: Hoosier_Hound http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-14323 Hoosier_Hound Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:11:43 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-14323 I've been saying this very thing for two months, guess I'm not credible or something.<br><br>The real thing that's hurting Greenspan is that the one thing he screwed up also happened to be the single most important thing at Indiana. But with Crean, all the other coaches, the black budget, and the new facilities; I've always thought the good outweighed the bad in Greenspan's tenure.<br><br>Lastly, I truly fail to understand all the bashing that Lynch receives. He led IU to their best season in 15 years despite a tragedy. I call that a great success. I've been saying this very thing for two months, guess I'm not credible or something.

The real thing that's hurting Greenspan is that the one thing he screwed up also happened to be the single most important thing at Indiana. But with Crean, all the other coaches, the black budget, and the new facilities; I've always thought the good outweighed the bad in Greenspan's tenure.

Lastly, I truly fail to understand all the bashing that Lynch receives. He led IU to their best season in 15 years despite a tragedy. I call that a great success.

]]> By: Hoosier_Hound http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-25758 Hoosier_Hound Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:11:43 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-25758 I've been saying this very thing for two months, guess I'm not credible or something.<br><br>The real thing that's hurting Greenspan is that the one thing he screwed up also happened to be the single most important thing at Indiana. But with Crean, all the other coaches, the black budget, and the new facilities; I've always thought the good outweighed the bad in Greenspan's tenure.<br><br>Lastly, I truly fail to understand all the bashing that Lynch receives. He led IU to their best season in 15 years despite a tragedy. I call that a great success. I've been saying this very thing for two months, guess I'm not credible or something.

The real thing that's hurting Greenspan is that the one thing he screwed up also happened to be the single most important thing at Indiana. But with Crean, all the other coaches, the black budget, and the new facilities; I've always thought the good outweighed the bad in Greenspan's tenure.

Lastly, I truly fail to understand all the bashing that Lynch receives. He led IU to their best season in 15 years despite a tragedy. I call that a great success.

]]> By: Hoosier_Hound http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-34368 Hoosier_Hound Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:11:43 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-34368 I've been saying this very thing for two months, guess I'm not credible or something.<br><br>The real thing that's hurting Greenspan is that the one thing he screwed up also happened to be the single most important thing at Indiana. But with Crean, all the other coaches, the black budget, and the new facilities; I've always thought the good outweighed the bad in Greenspan's tenure.<br><br>Lastly, I truly fail to understand all the bashing that Lynch receives. He led IU to their best season in 15 years despite a tragedy. I call that a great success. I've been saying this very thing for two months, guess I'm not credible or something.

The real thing that's hurting Greenspan is that the one thing he screwed up also happened to be the single most important thing at Indiana. But with Crean, all the other coaches, the black budget, and the new facilities; I've always thought the good outweighed the bad in Greenspan's tenure.

Lastly, I truly fail to understand all the bashing that Lynch receives. He led IU to their best season in 15 years despite a tragedy. I call that a great success.

]]> By: JerryCT http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-14312 JerryCT Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:22:01 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-14312 I thought the KS hire was very clever , not at all PC and for most of 2 seasons it looked very good. After the recent debacle I see that IU was maybe not realistic or not ready for KS aggressiveness.<br><br>BUt for all you guys to trash the hire like you KNEW this would happen is really crazy............for the most part you 1) did not know and 2) loved the recruiting 3) liked the winning..<br><br>We got it right this time and looking backward just makes everyone appear hypocritical I thought the KS hire was very clever , not at all PC and for most of 2 seasons it looked very good. After the recent debacle I see that IU was maybe not realistic or not ready for KS aggressiveness.

BUt for all you guys to trash the hire like you KNEW this would happen is really crazy…………for the most part you 1) did not know and 2) loved the recruiting 3) liked the winning..

We got it right this time and looking backward just makes everyone appear hypocritical

]]> By: JerryCT http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-25757 JerryCT Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:22:01 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-25757 I thought the KS hire was very clever , not at all PC and for most of 2 seasons it looked very good. After the recent debacle I see that IU was maybe not realistic or not ready for KS aggressiveness.<br><br>BUt for all you guys to trash the hire like you KNEW this would happen is really crazy............for the most part you 1) did not know and 2) loved the recruiting 3) liked the winning..<br><br>We got it right this time and looking backward just makes everyone appear hypocritical I thought the KS hire was very clever , not at all PC and for most of 2 seasons it looked very good. After the recent debacle I see that IU was maybe not realistic or not ready for KS aggressiveness.

BUt for all you guys to trash the hire like you KNEW this would happen is really crazy…………for the most part you 1) did not know and 2) loved the recruiting 3) liked the winning..

We got it right this time and looking backward just makes everyone appear hypocritical

]]> By: JerryCT http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-34367 JerryCT Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:22:01 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-34367 I thought the KS hire was very clever , not at all PC and for most of 2 seasons it looked very good. After the recent debacle I see that IU was maybe not realistic or not ready for KS aggressiveness.<br><br>BUt for all you guys to trash the hire like you KNEW this would happen is really crazy............for the most part you 1) did not know and 2) loved the recruiting 3) liked the winning..<br><br>We got it right this time and looking backward just makes everyone appear hypocritical I thought the KS hire was very clever , not at all PC and for most of 2 seasons it looked very good. After the recent debacle I see that IU was maybe not realistic or not ready for KS aggressiveness.

BUt for all you guys to trash the hire like you KNEW this would happen is really crazy…………for the most part you 1) did not know and 2) loved the recruiting 3) liked the winning..

We got it right this time and looking backward just makes everyone appear hypocritical

]]> By: JHoosiers77 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-14304 JHoosiers77 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:31:22 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-14304 Further proof that IU was more concerned about political correctness - replace a minority coach with another minority coach than finding the most qualified coach. Coach Crean has said for the past two days he was never contacted two years ago about replacing Davis. The only other reason I can see (other than PC ) is the AD's budget two years ago wasn't what it is today, especially if Stallings (RUKidding?) was his first choice. I put Greenspan at slightly above .500 right now and certainly hope that Lynch turns out to be the right decision as I have little faith he can be successful, though I hope I'm wrong. Further proof that IU was more concerned about political correctness – replace a minority coach with another minority coach than finding the most qualified coach. Coach Crean has said for the past two days he was never contacted two years ago about replacing Davis. The only other reason I can see (other than PC ) is the AD's budget two years ago wasn't what it is today, especially if Stallings (RUKidding?) was his first choice. I put Greenspan at slightly above .500 right now and certainly hope that Lynch turns out to be the right decision as I have little faith he can be successful, though I hope I'm wrong.

]]> By: JHoosiers77 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-25756 JHoosiers77 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:31:22 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-25756 Further proof that IU was more concerned about political correctness - replace a minority coach with another minority coach than finding the most qualified coach. Coach Crean has said for the past two days he was never contacted two years ago about replacing Davis. The only other reason I can see (other than PC ) is the AD's budget two years ago wasn't what it is today, especially if Stallings (RUKidding?) was his first choice. I put Greenspan at slightly above .500 right now and certainly hope that Lynch turns out to be the right decision as I have little faith he can be successful, though I hope I'm wrong. Further proof that IU was more concerned about political correctness – replace a minority coach with another minority coach than finding the most qualified coach. Coach Crean has said for the past two days he was never contacted two years ago about replacing Davis. The only other reason I can see (other than PC ) is the AD's budget two years ago wasn't what it is today, especially if Stallings (RUKidding?) was his first choice. I put Greenspan at slightly above .500 right now and certainly hope that Lynch turns out to be the right decision as I have little faith he can be successful, though I hope I'm wrong.

]]> By: JHoosiers77 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-34366 JHoosiers77 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:31:22 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-34366 Further proof that IU was more concerned about political correctness - replace a minority coach with another minority coach than finding the most qualified coach. Coach Crean has said for the past two days he was never contacted two years ago about replacing Davis. The only other reason I can see (other than PC ) is the AD's budget two years ago wasn't what it is today, especially if Stallings (RUKidding?) was his first choice. I put Greenspan at slightly above .500 right now and certainly hope that Lynch turns out to be the right decision as I have little faith he can be successful, though I hope I'm wrong. Further proof that IU was more concerned about political correctness – replace a minority coach with another minority coach than finding the most qualified coach. Coach Crean has said for the past two days he was never contacted two years ago about replacing Davis. The only other reason I can see (other than PC ) is the AD's budget two years ago wasn't what it is today, especially if Stallings (RUKidding?) was his first choice. I put Greenspan at slightly above .500 right now and certainly hope that Lynch turns out to be the right decision as I have little faith he can be successful, though I hope I'm wrong.

]]> By: ALH_00 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-14275 ALH_00 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:34:30 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-14275 No coach is going to work with someone in Compliance looking over his shoulder every second, as I'm sure KS did not. IU found out about the impermissible phone calls and reported the situation to the NCAA. The additional allegations, that KS gave false or misleading information to the NCAA investigators and the University is on KS. The administration did find out what was going on and it took action. (we'll see how proper it was in June). Until then, and in light of this post, don't we have to give Greenspan the benefit of the doubt? No coach is going to work with someone in Compliance looking over his shoulder every second, as I'm sure KS did not. IU found out about the impermissible phone calls and reported the situation to the NCAA. The additional allegations, that KS gave false or misleading information to the NCAA investigators and the University is on KS. The administration did find out what was going on and it took action. (we'll see how proper it was in June). Until then, and in light of this post, don't we have to give Greenspan the benefit of the doubt?

]]> By: ALH_00 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-25752 ALH_00 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:34:30 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-25752 No coach is going to work with someone in Compliance looking over his shoulder every second, as I'm sure KS did not. IU found out about the impermissible phone calls and reported the situation to the NCAA. The additional allegations, that KS gave false or misleading information to the NCAA investigators and the University is on KS. The administration did find out what was going on and it took action. (we'll see how proper it was in June). Until then, and in light of this post, don't we have to give Greenspan the benefit of the doubt? No coach is going to work with someone in Compliance looking over his shoulder every second, as I'm sure KS did not. IU found out about the impermissible phone calls and reported the situation to the NCAA. The additional allegations, that KS gave false or misleading information to the NCAA investigators and the University is on KS. The administration did find out what was going on and it took action. (we'll see how proper it was in June). Until then, and in light of this post, don't we have to give Greenspan the benefit of the doubt?

]]> By: ALH_00 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/comment-page-2/#comment-34362 ALH_00 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:34:30 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/04/03/herald-times-e-mails-take-full-burden-off-greenspan-for-sampson-hire/#comment-34362 No coach is going to work with someone in Compliance looking over his shoulder every second, as I'm sure KS did not. IU found out about the impermissible phone calls and reported the situation to the NCAA. The additional allegations, that KS gave false or misleading information to the NCAA investigators and the University is on KS. The administration did find out what was going on and it took action. (we'll see how proper it was in June). Until then, and in light of this post, don't we have to give Greenspan the benefit of the doubt? No coach is going to work with someone in Compliance looking over his shoulder every second, as I'm sure KS did not. IU found out about the impermissible phone calls and reported the situation to the NCAA. The additional allegations, that KS gave false or misleading information to the NCAA investigators and the University is on KS. The administration did find out what was going on and it took action. (we'll see how proper it was in June). Until then, and in light of this post, don't we have to give Greenspan the benefit of the doubt?

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