Report: Armon Bassett and Jamarcus Ellis dismissed

  • 03/31/2008 9:17 pm in

bassett236.JPGUpdate: J.D. Campbell confirms Armon Bassett and Jamarcus Ellis have been dismissed from the team.

According to a report by Terry Hutchens of the Indianapolis Star, interim head coach Dan Dakich has dismissed Armon Bassett and Jamarcus Ellis from the team. Here is the rationale, according to Hutch:

Both players missed two prearranged meetings last week. They were told if they missed the second meeting, they would be kicked off the team.

There has to be more to this story than missing a meeting. Both players were suspended at one point this past season for undisclosed reasons. As a fan, I must say I’m not real comfortable with an interim head coach kicking players off the team. At the same time, the players do need to listen to Dakich as long as he is in charge. The soap opera that is Indiana basketball seems to be getting worse as the days go by. Someone, please stop the bleeding.

Update: A report tonight by the Hoosier Scoop says both players hope to return to the program when a new coach is named.

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  • RobertSchell

    I wonder what Kent Harvey thinks of all of this…

  • Kelin Blab

    Ok so did I miss something here…..is it OK for Dakich the “interim/substitute” coach to dismiss players from the team?????

    Please someone convince me otherwise. I understand Armon and Jamarcus previous issues and have ZERO problems with them being disciplined but in this case the FACT is they have NO REASON to listen to a guy who WILL NOT be there. That is the nature of the beast that I DON'T agree with but ……people it is the HARDCORE truth. Dakich has the same amount of influence on these kids than we do….NONE.

    Again how many of you treated the substitute teacher with as much respect as the actual teacher….???

  • JerryCT

    It has been 40 years since I first graduated from IU. There was no Assembly Hall then and no Bobby Knight. Many of you donot remember Vernon Payne( Michigan CIty ) who took us from last to first in the B-10 . Yes guys I have seen worse days at IU.

    Many on ITH indicate you are a lot younger and that is a good thing.Why ? Because you have many years as a loyal fan to witness great highs and lows. This period is of course a low but rest assured we will be back. No need to freak out or stop being a fan

  • Kelin Blab

    I double agree, there is a difference in Mike Davis and A.Grant. At this point Indiana needs some good press. THis entire thing could shift with our current players including EJ and our recruits and including ebanks etc if we had a good hire….SOON. This bad press cannot look good to recruits for this year and next.

  • Kelin Blab

    This just in….Just heard Dan Dakich has raised tuition at IU by 15% and renamed the court “Dan's Den”

  • jgongora86

    I'm on the fence with this issue. I think both the interim coach and players should have recognized what we as a prorma are going through. It's all about compromise, and I think both parties don't want to geive. Its nothing more than ego trip for me. I hate ego, because usually nothing productive happens when it gets in the way.

  • deedubbadoo

    “I understand Armon and Jamarcus previous issues and have ZERO problems with them being disciplined but in this case the FACT is they have NO REASON to listen to a guy who WILL NOT be there.”

    You just summed up the last 7 games of our season right there. Why should we listen to him, he is not going to be here. That is the best logic I have ever heard. Maybe they should listen to him because right now he IS the head coach of the team. Maybe listen to him because this university gave them the opportunity to play at IU.
    Maybe listen to him because this was DJ's last chance at something in college and this team, except him, quit the day Sampson left.

    “Dakich has the same amount of influence on these kids than we do….NONE. Again you just made your own argument right there.” It is sad that the man that is currently the head coach has no influence over the kids who are getting a great opportunity to play basketball and a free education. Ungrateful, that is the only word to describe them. If Jamarcus Ellis and Armon Bassett think they are bigger than the program then by all means go play somewhere else. I would rather watch Adam Ahlfeld start, and us lose every game, then some kids that have no loyalty to name on the front of their jersey. Millions of kids would die to get the chance to throw on the candy stripes and play in Assembly Hall. But these two feel like they are owed something, newsflash, you got it! Its a free education at a great university, just show up and do what you are supposed to or go somewhere else.

    Enough with the substitute teacher reference. The guy was named the interim head coach and the team went 3-4. Those players except for a few quit on him the day Sampson took the money and ran, and it cost our seniors a chance at a successful run into the tournament. I have no respect for Armon or “Tone.”

  • tberry

    What you missed is that Dakich is the boss until the new coach is hired. He is not like the substitute teacher you used to blow of a couple of years ago in high school.

    If Dakich had not demanded discipline the basketball babies would have run everyone off the floor including any new coach.

    Any new coach worth his salt will be pleased that Dakich has made the players decide whether they want to play for IU or be a petty joke.

    Until further notice, Dakich IS the coach and his actions were completely appropriate.

  • Who is going to play Bobby Hurley?

  • Kelin Blab

    I see you guys point and I think the timing is bad on this. I am torn because of the interim label, the dismissal, and to take such a hard stance at THIS time. I think this could have been handled another way such as a suspension or dismissal peninding the hiring of the new coach. To take this hard stance now is very very odd to me…..

  • Scott24

    Being a teacher and dealing with kids these days, it seems like we need to stop making excuses for these kids. They are responsible young adults and can make decisions on their own. If they were given a warning, no matter who the coach is, then they made their decision. It is time they sleep in the bed they have made. 20 years ago, if this same situation happened, the kids were gone, no questions asked. Now days we give them chance after chance after chance. I want to watch kids play basketball for IU that want to be here, know that the team comes first, the coach is the boss know matter who it is. I don't want to watch kids who put themselves first before the team. I don't want to watch kids who don't show up for team meetings. I don't want to watch someone who has their priorities mixed up. Kelvin was not their dad. It is time to play basketball and get over the loss of their coach.

  • Should we get him some Upland, so that he knows what he might be headed for? Richmond is, strangely enough, a pretty decent beer town.

  • Scott24

    DD is still the coach until a new one is named. If the kids can't respect him, then why should they be let back onto the team? They have let DD down, themselves down, the team down, as well as the fans. I have lost a lot of respect for those two players. I have a big problem if they are let back on to the team after a new coach is hired.
    It seems like everyday I am becoming less of an IU fan. I really like Rick Barnes. Maybe I should be a Texas fan.

  • I heard a report down here (from Raleigh, from a huge ACC homer) that Indiana was in talks with Miller about working out the buy out in his contract. I don't know if I should believe it or not, since this same moron reported Calipari was going to be NC State's next head coach.

  • Scott24

    Why are we giving these players and excuse not to listen to authority? Are we seriously going to baby these players?? It doesn't matter that he is not going to be the coach. BUT right now, HE IS THE COACH!! If they can't respect him, who is to say the will listen to the new coach?????

  • Scott24

    Being a teacher I teach kids to treat everyone with respect and that you don't question authority. When a substitute teacher is in my classroom I EXPECT my kids to treat the sub they same way they treat me.

  • BrianK

    having the ability to and actually doing are 2 things. Can since he is coach..yes…should he considering where IU is at right now…no. DD has a bad history of kicking players off and getting them to transfer. He has basically bragged about it. Ppl complained in the last years of RMK about the # of transfers etc that was going on. DD is trying to start worse than that. DD would rather kick a kid off or force them to transfer instead of workign with them. He has only had not even had 2 months as their head coach. These guys are young men and need to be responsible but this is overboard. These havne't been coached that well period since they came. DD wanted to kick 4 players off right after teh tourney loss including these 2. Sounds like he was looking to make an excuse to kick them off.

  • JerryCT

    ” the most effective tool a coach has is the bench, even for star players, donot be afraid to use it”…………..John Wooden

    I see this as a type of benching that is actually good for the players' development. Whether DD is interim or not is irrelevant.

    This time of year coaches are trying to get their kids onto summer programs like DJ 's Pan Am games team or a B-10 team touring Europe. What coach now wants these kids on their team ?

    Their only hope is to tell a story that they were reprimanded , paid their dues and will not do this again. If this happens then DD's move was brilliant

  • Kelin Blab

    My substitute teacher is getting a lot of play on xl950….sweet

  • dale11

    lets look on the bright side…we should still have enough talent to win the cbi.

  • Maybe the real reason they got booted was because they were smokin doobies IN A VAN, DOWN BY THE RIVER!!

  • Kelin, you have gotten crushed on here repeatedlyfor making moronic comments. I think that you have been LIVING IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!!!

  • BrianK

    Lol where is this talent we have left to even make the CBI?

  • BrianK

    watching how this is all playing out I feel like I've taken a butt load of acid and I'm hallucinating myself

  • Kelin Blab

    Have you noticed that -6 by your name???

  • You MIGHT (notice I said might) have been funny once or twice, but I'm going to suggest knocking it off. Hopefully you take the hint.

  • For the record, that was directed at mama, not you, Kelin.

  • bz

    seriously. if this is an april fools' joke, it's not a good one. it's too close to being believable.

    …what…it's not an april 1 joke…CRAP!

  • bz

    i know that dd is the coach and authority right now, but we ALL know that he is NOT the next head coach. i am really hesitant to endorse and INTERIM head coach making permanent decisions for a basketball program when they KNOW that when the loose the interim portion of the title they are going to lose the whole title.

    with that said, it hasn't been so long since i was 20. i made some stupid mistakes. i did some dumb things (send me an email if you would like some entertaining details). i say all this to make the point that while i was in college, i never put my scholarships in jeopardy. i never skipped mandatory study sessions or meetings with profs. while i was young and stupid, i was smart enough to understand that when an authority figure told me to be somewhere and do something (for a grade or a starting position), i did it. i didn't challenge my club volleyball coach just because he was a club coach, i did what i was told to do.

    to rehash: i don't like dd making permanent decisions that affect this club's future. i dislike even more giving these kids passes because the are “emotional kids.”

  • Big A, I appreciate this blog, as it has been a good read for me out on the west coast. I will keep it stricly professional. Sorry that I'm a realist.

  • You don't need to “keep it strictly professional.” At the same time, people are entitled to give their opinion without being ripped by others.

  • ALH_00

    “I teach kids…that you don't question authority.”

    I'm glad you don't teach my kids. I think you mean respect, as you pointed out, but certainly one may (and should always) question authority. If we never questioned authority, we'd still be British.

    But, questioning authority and outright definance are two entirely different things. The latter is seldom warranted, and probably not in this case. But why DD is trying to but heads with players who should be relieved from basketball responsibilities for a while is beyond me.

  • Scott24

    I teach first graders. Just in my 7 years teaching I have seen kids question me when I ask them to do something.
    Besides, I wouldn't want to teach your kids anyway. lol
    jk

  • bz

    i know that dd is the coach and authority right now, but we ALL know that he is NOT the next head coach. i am really hesitant to endorse and INTERIM head coach making permanent decisions for a basketball program when they KNOW that when the loose the interim portion of the title they are going to lose the whole title.

    with that said, it hasn't been so long since i was 20. i made some stupid mistakes. i did some dumb things (send me an email if you would like some entertaining details). i say all this to make the point that while i was in college, i never put my scholarships in jeopardy. i never skipped mandatory study sessions or meetings with profs. while i was young and stupid, i was smart enough to understand that when an authority figure told me to be somewhere and do something (for a grade or a starting position), i did it. i didn't challenge my club volleyball coach just because he was a club coach, i did what i was told to do.

    to rehash: i don't like dd making permanent decisions that affect this club's future. i dislike even more giving these kids passes because the are “emotional kids.”

  • Big A, I appreciate this blog, as it has been a good read for me out on the west coast. I will keep it stricly professional. Sorry that I'm a realist.

  • You don't need to “keep it strictly professional.” At the same time, people are entitled to give their opinion without being ripped by others.

  • ALH_00

    “I teach kids…that you don't question authority.”

    I'm glad you don't teach my kids. I think you mean respect, as you pointed out, but certainly one may (and should always) question authority. If we never questioned authority, we'd still be British.

    But, questioning authority and outright definance are two entirely different things. The latter is seldom warranted, and probably not in this case. But why DD is trying to but heads with players who should be relieved from basketball responsibilities for a while is beyond me.

  • Scott24

    I teach first graders. Just in my 7 years teaching I have seen kids question me when I ask them to do something.
    Besides, I wouldn't want to teach your kids anyway. lol
    jk