Comments on: Parrish: Sampson not bowing out gracefully; Players threaten to quit http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/ Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:48:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Hoosiers07 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-40157 Hoosiers07 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:32:24 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-40157 I hate the negativity on message boards, so I deliberately leave this comment after anyone will read it. I hate everything about what would cause you to leave say something like this. This makes me a diehard liberal deserving of the worst hatred you know, but I welcome that hatred because you're delusional, ignorant, and downright stupid. I hate the negativity on message boards, so I deliberately leave this comment after anyone will read it. I hate everything about what would cause you to leave say something like this. This makes me a diehard liberal deserving of the worst hatred you know, but I welcome that hatred because you're delusional, ignorant, and downright stupid.

]]> By: Hoosiers07 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-18090 Hoosiers07 Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:32:24 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-18090 I hate the negativity on message boards, so I deliberately leave this comment after anyone will read it. I hate everything about what would cause you to leave say something like this. This makes me a diehard liberal deserving of the worst hatred you know, but I welcome that hatred because you're delusional, ignorant, and downright stupid. I hate the negativity on message boards, so I deliberately leave this comment after anyone will read it. I hate everything about what would cause you to leave say something like this. This makes me a diehard liberal deserving of the worst hatred you know, but I welcome that hatred because you're delusional, ignorant, and downright stupid.

]]> By: Raymond http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-18115 Raymond Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:54:33 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-18115 Hahaha, I apologize. I will try and make an adjustment to avoid confusion. Hahaha, I apologize. I will try and make an adjustment to avoid confusion.

]]> By: ray http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-18114 ray Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:50:11 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-18114 well hello ray with "caps"...your sign in name briefly threw me for a loop! well hello ray with “caps”…your sign in name briefly threw me for a loop!

]]> By: ray http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-18112 ray Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:47:49 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-18112 my comment as well as many others was a matter of...if they decide to leave. if they decide to leave then all of these fans have every right to say good riddance, just as you are suggesting that players have every right to voice their opinions. <br><br>i for one, think that losing any of the players could be detrimental to the team. i would hate to see it happen, but like i stated earlier...i highly doubt it happens. if it does it won't be on the grand scale that the media is describing. my comment as well as many others was a matter of…if they decide to leave. if they decide to leave then all of these fans have every right to say good riddance, just as you are suggesting that players have every right to voice their opinions.

i for one, think that losing any of the players could be detrimental to the team. i would hate to see it happen, but like i stated earlier…i highly doubt it happens. if it does it won't be on the grand scale that the media is describing.

]]> By: Ray http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-18113 Ray Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:37:47 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-18113 These players play for INDIANA UNIVERSITY. Tommy says, "They aren't under contract" and he is right, they aren't. But, they are under Scholarship and we pay for them to go to school here to play basketball.<br><br>No player is bigger than Indiana University or it's basketball program. If they don't want to play that's fine, if they want to sit out the game tomorrow that's fine, but I say suspend them immediately. This University should not ever be held hostage by it's student athletes no matter the circumstances. <br><br>They do NOT deserve some say in the decision and they do NOT deserve some say in the choice between Dakich and Macullum. They are simply players. If they don't want to play for the coach then do not play but this university can ill afford to make any more coaching decisions based on the views and emotions of it's players and our current situation is evidence of that fact.<br><br>The University needs to do what is right for Indiana University and the future of it's Basketball program and athletic department. If we have to throw away one season out of 107 then so be it! Decisions now need to be based on how to reclaim our clean and honest name and set us back on the right path. These players play for INDIANA UNIVERSITY. Tommy says, “They aren't under contract” and he is right, they aren't. But, they are under Scholarship and we pay for them to go to school here to play basketball.

No player is bigger than Indiana University or it's basketball program. If they don't want to play that's fine, if they want to sit out the game tomorrow that's fine, but I say suspend them immediately. This University should not ever be held hostage by it's student athletes no matter the circumstances.

They do NOT deserve some say in the decision and they do NOT deserve some say in the choice between Dakich and Macullum. They are simply players. If they don't want to play for the coach then do not play but this university can ill afford to make any more coaching decisions based on the views and emotions of it's players and our current situation is evidence of that fact.

The University needs to do what is right for Indiana University and the future of it's Basketball program and athletic department. If we have to throw away one season out of 107 then so be it! Decisions now need to be based on how to reclaim our clean and honest name and set us back on the right path.

]]> By: ray http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-18097 ray Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:37:17 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-18097 thank you td...FINALLY, SOMEONE TRULY UNDERSTANDS THE COMPLEXITY OF THIS WHOLE SHEBANG!<br><br>my opinion with the players leaving is simple...<br><br>ahfield and taber wouldn't leave...they are walk-ons who are playing without scholarships because it was a dream!<br><br>dj white wouldn't leave...he's stuck it out this long and this is his season to do something spectacular on a personal level...like win a big ten p.o.y. or more.<br><br>eric gordon wouldn't leave...he's already thinking about the nba and i doubt he'll be willing to wait two more years to see this happen...he needs to play one year of college basketball and if he transfers he'll be sitting idle on a bench for one year before he can complete this one-year commitment.<br><br>lance stemler may leave...sampson gave him more playing time than he deserved, so he probably loves the man.<br><br>either way, if any of these players leave i know what the university should do...<br><br>DON'T ALLOW ANY OF THEIR COLLEGE CREDITS TO TRANSFER OR MAKE THEM PAY THE UNIVERSITY BACK FOR THEIR SCHOLARSHIPS! I HATE QUITTERS! thank you td…FINALLY, SOMEONE TRULY UNDERSTANDS THE COMPLEXITY OF THIS WHOLE SHEBANG!

my opinion with the players leaving is simple…

ahfield and taber wouldn't leave…they are walk-ons who are playing without scholarships because it was a dream!

dj white wouldn't leave…he's stuck it out this long and this is his season to do something spectacular on a personal level…like win a big ten p.o.y. or more.

eric gordon wouldn't leave…he's already thinking about the nba and i doubt he'll be willing to wait two more years to see this happen…he needs to play one year of college basketball and if he transfers he'll be sitting idle on a bench for one year before he can complete this one-year commitment.

lance stemler may leave…sampson gave him more playing time than he deserved, so he probably loves the man.

either way, if any of these players leave i know what the university should do…

DON'T ALLOW ANY OF THEIR COLLEGE CREDITS TO TRANSFER OR MAKE THEM PAY THE UNIVERSITY BACK FOR THEIR SCHOLARSHIPS! I HATE QUITTERS!

]]> By: Matt J. http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-18094 Matt J. Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:56:51 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-18094 True enough. I just re-read the article and I must have misinterpreted it. I wondered how much clout he'd have with a threat to leave if things didn't go the way he wanted them to. True enough. I just re-read the article and I must have misinterpreted it. I wondered how much clout he'd have with a threat to leave if things didn't go the way he wanted them to.

]]> By: HoosierSmitty http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-18093 HoosierSmitty Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:17:54 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-18093 He might have been in the meeting, but I doubt he would threaten to walk! Who would care? He might have been in the meeting, but I doubt he would threaten to walk! Who would care?

]]> By: Jerry http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-18111 Jerry Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:14:26 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-18111 Amen Tommy Amen WHAT KIND OF FAN TRASHES THE INNOCENT PLAYERS. These type comments make me sicker than KS does Amen Tommy Amen WHAT KIND OF FAN TRASHES THE INNOCENT PLAYERS. These type comments make me sicker than KS does

]]> By: tommy pickles http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-18110 tommy pickles Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:53:05 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-18110 This is one of the more entertaining stories I've read about the situation. Part of me hopes its true, but come on guys. Do you really believe this?<br><br>Secondly, I'm really disappointed in a lot of people in a lot of places saying "fine let them walk." That's just sad that you take the "irresponsible kids who don't think of the university" line. They aren't under contract, they are not pros, and they came here to play for coach Sampson. If they want some say in if he stays, they deserve some say. They also deserve some say between Dakich and McCallum. To totally ignore them and to tell them to just deal with the situation that we hand them is bs. Have some respect for the team you claim to support and let them have a say. Otherwise i say we let you walk. This is one of the more entertaining stories I've read about the situation. Part of me hopes its true, but come on guys. Do you really believe this?

Secondly, I'm really disappointed in a lot of people in a lot of places saying “fine let them walk.” That's just sad that you take the “irresponsible kids who don't think of the university” line. They aren't under contract, they are not pros, and they came here to play for coach Sampson. If they want some say in if he stays, they deserve some say. They also deserve some say between Dakich and McCallum. To totally ignore them and to tell them to just deal with the situation that we hand them is bs. Have some respect for the team you claim to support and let them have a say. Otherwise i say we let you walk.

]]> By: the other steve http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-18085 the other steve Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:46:21 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-18085 Agree, I am sick of kids running these programs because of their talent or reputation. I am sick of athletes making more money than the people that run this country. Athletics is out of our control due to our own agenda. Agree, I am sick of kids running these programs because of their talent or reputation. I am sick of athletes making more money than the people that run this country. Athletics is out of our control due to our own agenda.

]]> By: hysteric http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-18109 hysteric Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:33:26 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-18109 as long as the players werent dj or ej they players are going to play...they have to out of respect for them<br><br>the obvious candidates are bassett and ellis...they will play...if not, good riddance<br><br>the last decade of iu bball has been largely a disappointment...it is now time to make a long-term decision to ensure that the next decade wont be the same as long as the players werent dj or ej they players are going to play…they have to out of respect for them

the obvious candidates are bassett and ellis…they will play…if not, good riddance

the last decade of iu bball has been largely a disappointment…it is now time to make a long-term decision to ensure that the next decade wont be the same

]]> By: Corey http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-18108 Corey Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:28:12 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-18108 DJ and EJ are going to play....they have NBA aspirations and if they want to keep them, they will play. Bottom line. Yes, they both would still go to the NBA if they didn't play the rest of the season, but could possibly sacrifice a few spots in the draft, which can be the difference in millions of dollars. They are playing. DJ and EJ are going to play….they have NBA aspirations and if they want to keep them, they will play. Bottom line. Yes, they both would still go to the NBA if they didn't play the rest of the season, but could possibly sacrifice a few spots in the draft, which can be the difference in millions of dollars. They are playing.

]]> By: td http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-18105 td Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:20:44 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-18105 There is no program without players. Their careers will be just fine if they're good enough. Understand Pierre Pierce is currently working with the development league and, if good enough, you'll see him in the NBA some day. With all the problems Pacer players have had, one would think they hurt they're careers, however the money tree just keeps growing. If character was a prerequisite rather than characters, there would be no NBA the fans would want to see. There is no program without players. Their careers will be just fine if they're good enough. Understand Pierre Pierce is currently working with the development league and, if good enough, you'll see him in the NBA some day. With all the problems Pacer players have had, one would think they hurt they're careers, however the money tree just keeps growing. If character was a prerequisite rather than characters, there would be no NBA the fans would want to see.

]]> By: kelin http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-18107 kelin Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:13:44 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-18107 Just heard on CH.13 Indy......2pm statement....<br>Henry also talked with DJ and DJ confirmed the threat of some of the players....<br>He asked him is it true some players are threatning NOT to play tomorrow....<br>According to Henry....DJ said I won't say it isn't true....<br><br>He said DJ seemed very emotional. Also KS was at the gym in street clothes with his wife......NOT ready to practice.<br><br>DJ....listen kid, let the emotions take its course but don't let the emotions ruin your career. Get pissed at the University, AD, and also...KS...but rally YOUR team and get it done. IU fans will cheer you even more.....not playing and threats won't help KS keep his job..... Just heard on CH.13 Indy……2pm statement….
Henry also talked with DJ and DJ confirmed the threat of some of the players….
He asked him is it true some players are threatning NOT to play tomorrow….
According to Henry….DJ said I won't say it isn't true….

He said DJ seemed very emotional. Also KS was at the gym in street clothes with his wife……NOT ready to practice.

DJ….listen kid, let the emotions take its course but don't let the emotions ruin your career. Get pissed at the University, AD, and also…KS…but rally YOUR team and get it done. IU fans will cheer you even more…..not playing and threats won't help KS keep his job…..

]]> By: td http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-18106 td Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:10:27 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-18106 I know everyone would like to see this thing be past history, however the university people have had a chance to fix this thing going back through Coach Knight's firing, Mike Davis' leaving and now this. One would think the experience (costing the school millions), past and present would kick in at some point. Even the inept should learn after a while. The NCAA and IU historically have said this is about the "student/athletes." If true, why do they become involved only after decisions have been made. Without them the money tree begins to rot. Do you think the Big-Ten network is interested in an intramural team showing up representing IU. They have a contract you know. I know everyone would like to see this thing be past history, however the university people have had a chance to fix this thing going back through Coach Knight's firing, Mike Davis' leaving and now this. One would think the experience (costing the school millions), past and present would kick in at some point. Even the inept should learn after a while. The NCAA and IU historically have said this is about the “student/athletes.” If true, why do they become involved only after decisions have been made. Without them the money tree begins to rot. Do you think the Big-Ten network is interested in an intramural team showing up representing IU. They have a contract you know.

]]> By: Chuck http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-18104 Chuck Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:08:16 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-18104 The program is bigger than any player (or players), if they don't want to play the rest of the season, so be it. I cannot imagine White doing this. It would not be good for Gordon's carreer if he did this either. I am just ready for a new coach and to put this behind us. The program is bigger than any player (or players), if they don't want to play the rest of the season, so be it. I cannot imagine White doing this. It would not be good for Gordon's carreer if he did this either. I am just ready for a new coach and to put this behind us.

]]> By: Greg http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-18102 Greg Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:05:05 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-18102 We did not practice the last couple of days because we are required by NCAA rules to give an additional day off when the team plays 3 games in 7 days. Just FYI, it had nothing to do with what is going on. We did not practice the last couple of days because we are required by NCAA rules to give an additional day off when the team plays 3 games in 7 days. Just FYI, it had nothing to do with what is going on.

]]> By: Timmy http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-18103 Timmy Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:04:31 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/22/sources-via-parrish-sampson-not-bowing-out-gracefully-players-threaten-to-quit/#comment-18103 Hate to say I told you so but y'all should get ready to post your apology to me. Hate to say I told you so but y'all should get ready to post your apology to me.

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