Comments on: A matter of when, not if… http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/ Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:40:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jeff http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/comment-page-5/#comment-38871 Jeff Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:56:19 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/#comment-38871 Unfortunately, you are probably right. President McRobbie and Trustee representatives should meet privately with Sampson and offer him the chance to resign in the next few days and recommend an interim successor from his staff, either McCallum or Dakich and keep the staff together through the year. In that resignation, they offer him a modest settlement of $100k (right, 'modest'), but if he refuses and the NCAA allegations are verified, that they would execute the termination with cause provision of his contract for new violations and owe him nothing. <br><br>The real question is do you let Greenspan search and hire the new coach and then fire Greenspan. Or, do you let Greenspan go, find a new AD who immediately has to start looking for a new basketball coach? Greenspan has been incredibly unimpressive and comes off as a bit of jerk. Unfortunately, you are probably right. President McRobbie and Trustee representatives should meet privately with Sampson and offer him the chance to resign in the next few days and recommend an interim successor from his staff, either McCallum or Dakich and keep the staff together through the year. In that resignation, they offer him a modest settlement of $100k (right, 'modest'), but if he refuses and the NCAA allegations are verified, that they would execute the termination with cause provision of his contract for new violations and owe him nothing.

The real question is do you let Greenspan search and hire the new coach and then fire Greenspan. Or, do you let Greenspan go, find a new AD who immediately has to start looking for a new basketball coach? Greenspan has been incredibly unimpressive and comes off as a bit of jerk.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/comment-page-5/#comment-38849 Jeff Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:44:57 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/#comment-38849 You should keep in mind that forfeiting wins for this and possibly last year will be on the table as a sanction against the University. It makes no difference if he doesn't coach another game. The Sampson era, effectively, ended today. Gordon, D.J. and Kelvin will all be gone next year and if we are stripped of the victories, it will be like it never happened. The only thing that saves the University is if the NCAA looks mercifully on self-reporting the problem and firing the Coach. Maybe we don't get a post-season and TV ban. You should keep in mind that forfeiting wins for this and possibly last year will be on the table as a sanction against the University. It makes no difference if he doesn't coach another game. The Sampson era, effectively, ended today. Gordon, D.J. and Kelvin will all be gone next year and if we are stripped of the victories, it will be like it never happened. The only thing that saves the University is if the NCAA looks mercifully on self-reporting the problem and firing the Coach. Maybe we don't get a post-season and TV ban.

]]> By: Fromthebarn http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/comment-page-5/#comment-38885 Fromthebarn Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:18:47 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/#comment-38885 Wouldn't it make more sense to get rid of him now and move on. Keeping him around until the end of the season doesn't seem to accomplish much, and could hurt recruiting. Wouldn't it make more sense to get rid of him now and move on. Keeping him around until the end of the season doesn't seem to accomplish much, and could hurt recruiting.

]]> By: Chris http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/comment-page-5/#comment-38884 Chris Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:43:07 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/#comment-38884 Yeah I'm embarrassed too, but for all those who forget PU had some phone call violations of their own a few years back. <a href="http://news.uns.purdue.edu/UNS/html3month/1998/9802.NCAA.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.uns.purdue.edu/UNS/html3month/1998/...</a> Yeah I'm embarrassed too, but for all those who forget PU had some phone call violations of their own a few years back. http://news.uns.purdue.edu/UNS/html3month/1998/...

]]> By: Chuck http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/comment-page-5/#comment-38883 Chuck Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:29:59 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/#comment-38883 He lied, fire him now, and Greenspan for supporting him after we know that he lied! I understand that Greenspan is tied to Sampson, but the Board needs to do the job and get rid of them. Indiana basketball is better than this. The program is going to be set back a couple of years, but I think the quicker the university acts, the less severe the sanctions on the program. If Sampson is coaching the game tonight, I will be greatly dissapointed. If he has any character at all, he needs to take a leave so he is not a distraction to the kids. I am a 1999 IU grad, and this sucks! We need to get a high quality coach next. He lied, fire him now, and Greenspan for supporting him after we know that he lied! I understand that Greenspan is tied to Sampson, but the Board needs to do the job and get rid of them. Indiana basketball is better than this. The program is going to be set back a couple of years, but I think the quicker the university acts, the less severe the sanctions on the program. If Sampson is coaching the game tonight, I will be greatly dissapointed. If he has any character at all, he needs to take a leave so he is not a distraction to the kids. I am a 1999 IU grad, and this sucks! We need to get a high quality coach next.

]]> By: Don D. http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/comment-page-5/#comment-38815 Don D. Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:21:47 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/#comment-38815 I listen to Indianapolis Sports Talk Radio as they were interviewing Don Fischer(Voice of the IU Radio Network). I realize he's an employee of the university however he says these are allegations. He talked about Ohio State firing Jim O'Brien for paying the player and how O'Brien sued and got big settlement. Before we all jump to saying Fire him - let the system complete the proper investigation. Yes maybe Sampson should say for the good of the basketball program I'm leaving the bench until this investigation is finished - however to this point that's not happened. Due to past stupid thinks the university has done for some time IU was still paying former AD Michael McNeely, former football coach Cam Cameron and I believe Ron Felling from his suit with BMK. Don Fischer said let the system do its job and the university can react. Clearly when you look at what the NCAA states it's not good and their timing prior to the three most important home games stinks!!!!!! Lets focus on Wisconsin and get a win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I listen to Indianapolis Sports Talk Radio as they were interviewing Don Fischer(Voice of the IU Radio Network). I realize he's an employee of the university however he says these are allegations. He talked about Ohio State firing Jim O'Brien for paying the player and how O'Brien sued and got big settlement. Before we all jump to saying Fire him – let the system complete the proper investigation. Yes maybe Sampson should say for the good of the basketball program I'm leaving the bench until this investigation is finished – however to this point that's not happened. Due to past stupid thinks the university has done for some time IU was still paying former AD Michael McNeely, former football coach Cam Cameron and I believe Ron Felling from his suit with BMK. Don Fischer said let the system do its job and the university can react. Clearly when you look at what the NCAA states it's not good and their timing prior to the three most important home games stinks!!!!!! Lets focus on Wisconsin and get a win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Jay http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/comment-page-5/#comment-38796 Jay Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:10:30 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/#comment-38796 Good point about a next coach, B. It means we've gone from a coach who wouldn't recruit (Knight) to one who couldn't recruit (Davis) to one who wouldn't do it right. The next coach HAS to get it. And to IU officials: don't try to get the next coach on the cheap. Get the money, and pay for a proven coach and recruiter. Bennet from Washington State might be great. He's young, smart, has midwest ties, and if he's anything at all like his father (former Wisconsin coach), he'll be the most ethical person in the state. Good point about a next coach, B. It means we've gone from a coach who wouldn't recruit (Knight) to one who couldn't recruit (Davis) to one who wouldn't do it right. The next coach HAS to get it. And to IU officials: don't try to get the next coach on the cheap. Get the money, and pay for a proven coach and recruiter. Bennet from Washington State might be great. He's young, smart, has midwest ties, and if he's anything at all like his father (former Wisconsin coach), he'll be the most ethical person in the state.

]]> By: hoosier nate http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/comment-page-5/#comment-38882 hoosier nate Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:06:15 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/#comment-38882 Why would recruiting and transfers take more of a hit from waiting until after the season to get rid of Sampson. I think keeping him around until the end of the season is the best bet. It allows the players the best shot at salvaging the season and terminating him at the end of the season still allows us to save face and show the committee that we were taking initiative to correct the problem. There is not going to be any new recruits made in the time difference of firing him now or at the end of the season, the only difference is coninuity and allowing this team to not be affected quite as much by the ordeal. Why would recruiting and transfers take more of a hit from waiting until after the season to get rid of Sampson. I think keeping him around until the end of the season is the best bet. It allows the players the best shot at salvaging the season and terminating him at the end of the season still allows us to save face and show the committee that we were taking initiative to correct the problem. There is not going to be any new recruits made in the time difference of firing him now or at the end of the season, the only difference is coninuity and allowing this team to not be affected quite as much by the ordeal.

]]> By: JamesHardy http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/comment-page-5/#comment-38881 JamesHardy Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:03:13 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/#comment-38881 Kelin, I've agree and disagreed with your stuff in the past few weeks, but this is one comment I could not agree with more. The future of IU is going to rest on what happens in the next 48 hours, in my humble opinion. Recruiting, the integrity of the program, but most importantly the reputation and integrity of my Alma Mater are at stake in the next 1 or 2 days. <br><br>My only concern here is that we're going to hear from Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson if they let him go now. I would like to see what Ray McCallum can do...cuz God knows his offensive philosophy can't be any WORSE than Mike Davis' or oops should I say Kelvin's....oh hell who cares, its one in the same. <br><br>I'm starting my recruitment of Scott Drew as of right now...look at what he did to the Baylor program that was almost eliminated 4 years ago. He's a guy that has Indiana roots and his morals are impecable. After watching Purdue play last night I wouldn't mind seeing IU fork over about $2.5 million a year to hire Painter...cuz that dude can COACH! Kelin, I've agree and disagreed with your stuff in the past few weeks, but this is one comment I could not agree with more. The future of IU is going to rest on what happens in the next 48 hours, in my humble opinion. Recruiting, the integrity of the program, but most importantly the reputation and integrity of my Alma Mater are at stake in the next 1 or 2 days.

My only concern here is that we're going to hear from Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson if they let him go now. I would like to see what Ray McCallum can do…cuz God knows his offensive philosophy can't be any WORSE than Mike Davis' or oops should I say Kelvin's….oh hell who cares, its one in the same.

I'm starting my recruitment of Scott Drew as of right now…look at what he did to the Baylor program that was almost eliminated 4 years ago. He's a guy that has Indiana roots and his morals are impecable. After watching Purdue play last night I wouldn't mind seeing IU fork over about $2.5 million a year to hire Painter…cuz that dude can COACH!

]]> By: jgongora http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/comment-page-5/#comment-38805 jgongora Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:00:18 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/13/not-a-question-of-ifbut-when/#comment-38805 I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with Timmy as well. Is it the apocalypse aproaching us or something? I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with Timmy as well. Is it the apocalypse aproaching us or something?

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