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Katz and ESPN: Major violations at IU

by in Media | February 13th, 2008

sampson4.jpgESPN.com just dropped a bomb on us, folks: the NCAA sent a letter to IU last Friday detailing major — not secondary like all the phone call nonsense we had to endure earlier this season — violations in the men’s basketball program. A quick blockquote of the particulars:

Larry MacIntyre, assistant vice president for university communications at Indiana University, confirmed to ESPN.com that the school did receive documentation from the NCAA last week.

The Associated Press reported on Tuesday night that the school will make the allegations public on Wednesday. University trustees president Stephen Ferguson told AP that school officials this week reviewed the report, but that the NCAA is not expected to make its ruling until this summer.

“There won’t be a hearing till this June,” Ferguson told AP. “It’s just been reviewed, and I think everyone is analyzing it now.”

OK, so the good out of all this: looks like this season is not in jeopardy, since nothing will come of this till June. But then there’s the bad news: oh, the bad news. At this point, I’d prefer not to get overly reactionary. I’m trying to sit here calmly in my living room just past midnight on Feb. 13, 2008 and think all is well with the team I love; the team I write about; the team I’ll follow till the Good Lord takes me from this Earth.

But this is just not the case. Rick Greenspan took a risk hiring Kelvin Sampson. He’s a great coach and knows his stuff, but there was baggage there. And it’s followed him to Bloomington. Whatever these “major” violations are — and by the time you read this, these may already be known since the University is making them public today — it’s not anywhere near a stretch for me to say that Sampson is likely done at IU. And Rick Greenspan might well be, too. Sampson isn’t even through his second year at the helm and already two incidents have come up; when Greenspan hired Sampson we were told any nonsense and he’d be shown the door.

Earlier this season, I wrote that as fans, we’re justified in booing our players if they don’t preform as we’d like them to. (A bit harsh, I know. Many did not agree.) But if you’re sitting — nay, standing — inside Assembly Hall tomorrow night when IU toes the court against the Badgers and Kelvin Sampson is introduced over the loudspeaker, go ahead and boo. Boo loud. Boo hard.

After all, this isn’t a kid’s shaky mental framework you are going to work over and make fragile. This is a grown man making repeated mistakes at one of the most storied programs in the nation — his actions are almost certain to set the program and team you love — we all love — back a few years.

If you’ll excuse, I’m going to go throw up, crawl into my bed and cry myself to sleep now. It’s all I really feel like doing.

A.M. edit: Just so everyone knows, I actually got a very nice night of sleep. I’m still pumped about tonight’s game and this next stretch here and will continue to root hard for the team. It’s all I’ve done; It’s all I’ll ever do.

  • HoosierSmitty

    As much as I'd love to go off on the timing of this…we can't use that to blunt the blow. We shouldn't even be in this situation.

    I agree…but it's time to face the music…be it now or a month from now.

  • HoosierSmitty

    As much as I'd love to go off on the timing of this…we can't use that to blunt the blow. We shouldn't even be in this situation.

    I agree…but it's time to face the music…be it now or a month from now.

  • MLOVE

    That is not who i want coaching this team….

  • MLOVE

    That is not who i want coaching this team….

  • Timmy

    Agreed!

  • Timmy

    Agreed!

  • Pete

    Hey Hoosier Smitty,
    The silence thing isn't a bad idea. Nice use of alliteration too. You must
    be an English teacher.

  • Pete

    Hey Hoosier Smitty,
    The silence thing isn't a bad idea. Nice use of alliteration too. You must
    be an English teacher.

  • Ryan_Btown

    Several folks have mentioned Dakich…I'm not a big fan of that either. I mean, he didn't exactly do just a tremendous job at Bowling Green. He was barely over 500. Not to mention that I don't know his role in all of this. He was the Pres. of Bball Operations when all this bull happened. This article was the first time I had heard that when we slapped Senderoff with recruiting restrictions and then fired him, we also slapped Dakich with restrictions. What does that mean?

  • Ryan_Btown

    Several folks have mentioned Dakich…I'm not a big fan of that either. I mean, he didn't exactly do just a tremendous job at Bowling Green. He was barely over 500. Not to mention that I don't know his role in all of this. He was the Pres. of Bball Operations when all this bull happened. This article was the first time I had heard that when we slapped Senderoff with recruiting restrictions and then fired him, we also slapped Dakich with restrictions. What does that mean?

  • ray

    perfect alternative HoosierSmitty! loud and obnoxious for the players and silence for
    Sampson…as if we're all quietly awaiting the decisions and repercussions that are in store for sampson, the university, the storied basketball program, next year's returning players, and incoming recruits. SILENCE EVERYONE…but only for Sampson!

  • ray

    perfect alternative HoosierSmitty! loud and obnoxious for the players and silence for
    Sampson…as if we're all quietly awaiting the decisions and repercussions that are in store for sampson, the university, the storied basketball program, next year's returning players, and incoming recruits. SILENCE EVERYONE…but only for Sampson!

  • kelin

    Well lets do two things people….

    1. Lets enjoy the remainder of this season with the “team”, Dj and Ej, particularly.
    2. Lets start compiling of list of “good” candidates
    my immediate list……Dakich, Alford, Matta, Butlers coach, and did I mention Thad Matta…Give his as a blank check and room and board.

  • kelin

    Well lets do two things people….

    1. Lets enjoy the remainder of this season with the “team”, Dj and Ej, particularly.
    2. Lets start compiling of list of “good” candidates
    my immediate list……Dakich, Alford, Matta, Butlers coach, and did I mention Thad Matta…Give his as a blank check and room and board.

  • Butch Carter

    Does anyone know what time the press conference is?

  • Butch Carter

    Does anyone know what time the press conference is?

  • http://www.insidethehall.com Alex

    Haven't heard anything. Which leads me to believe that there will be a press release issued and no questions taken since there is a game tonight.

    Just a hunch.

  • http://www.insidethehall.com Alex

    Haven't heard anything. Which leads me to believe that there will be a press release issued and no questions taken since there is a game tonight.

    Just a hunch.

  • jaime gongora

    guys i have heart problems, and I'm going to ignore this for while for the sake of better health. I just think this is the beginning of a very ugly cycle. I just hate the fact that pompous wind bags are in charge of hiring( aka our alumni union). I never really hated Sampson, but if it plays out, I think its time to let him go. I just don't understand how hard it is to stop something you already got in trouble for. Man, I need some vodka.

  • jaime gongora

    guys i have heart problems, and I'm going to ignore this for while for the sake of better health. I just think this is the beginning of a very ugly cycle. I just hate the fact that pompous wind bags are in charge of hiring( aka our alumni union). I never really hated Sampson, but if it plays out, I think its time to let him go. I just don't understand how hard it is to stop something you already got in trouble for. Man, I need some vodka.

  • peaychris

    I think i can speak for all hoosier fans. i would rather lose than cheat. i would rather have put up with mike davis than this bullshit i have never been so dissapointed about something in sports ever! fire him today and lets start fresh with an outsider. I nominate Dave Loos from Austin Peay my alma matter!! he always produces a winner and he does it with class!!

  • peaychris

    I think i can speak for all hoosier fans. i would rather lose than cheat. i would rather have put up with mike davis than this bullshit i have never been so dissapointed about something in sports ever! fire him today and lets start fresh with an outsider. I nominate Dave Loos from Austin Peay my alma matter!! he always produces a winner and he does it with class!!

  • jochunt23

    I only thought I would see the day that I would find it hard to dislike Purdue's coach and harder to like IU's coach would be when hell froze over.

    Alas, today it has happened. IU, as a whole, needs to wash its hands of this. I hate to say it, I was thrilled at the hire, the recruiting, and the over-achieving last year, but Sampson needs to be shown the door.

  • jochunt23

    I only thought I would see the day that I would find it hard to dislike Purdue's coach and harder to like IU's coach would be when hell froze over.

    Alas, today it has happened. IU, as a whole, needs to wash its hands of this. I hate to say it, I was thrilled at the hire, the recruiting, and the over-achieving last year, but Sampson needs to be shown the door.

  • Phillip

    I know it…Cleveland will be in the World Series this year though!

    Please don't boo Sampson…that's ridiculous. Be disgrutnled with him, want him gone, etc…but come on. That would be more embarrassing to the team than any of these sanctions.

  • Phillip

    I know it…Cleveland will be in the World Series this year though!

    Please don't boo Sampson…that's ridiculous. Be disgrutnled with him, want him gone, etc…but come on. That would be more embarrassing to the team than any of these sanctions.

  • kelin

    I wonder how many hits firekelvinsampson.com is getting…..I should have bought that domain name….

  • kelin

    I wonder how many hits firekelvinsampson.com is getting…..I should have bought that domain name….

  • kelin

    I wonder how many hits firekelvinsampson.com is getting…..I should have bought that domain name….

  • TomCoverdale's Eyebrows

    Does this come as a huge shock to anyone. Did we really all drink the Cool Aid when were told that Rob Senderoff was to fault? I belive the old saying “Fool me once, shame on you… fool me twice, shame on me” comes into play here.

    None the less, this still feels like a gut-shot. Conspiracy theory aside, the timing on this couldn't be worse. With the ability to seperate ourselves from the pack over the next three games, I hope this team has the ability to block this out; let the higher-ups deal with it, and continue to build on Saturday's W.

    Now, back to popping Xanax pills.

  • TomCoverdale's Eyebrows

    Does this come as a huge shock to anyone. Did we really all drink the Cool Aid when were told that Rob Senderoff was to fault? I belive the old saying “Fool me once, shame on you… fool me twice, shame on me” comes into play here.

    None the less, this still feels like a gut-shot. Conspiracy theory aside, the timing on this couldn't be worse. With the ability to seperate ourselves from the pack over the next three games, I hope this team has the ability to block this out; let the higher-ups deal with it, and continue to build on Saturday's W.

    Now, back to popping Xanax pills.

  • TomCoverdale's Eyebrows

    Does this come as a huge shock to anyone. Did we really all drink the Cool Aid when were told that Rob Senderoff was to fault? I belive the old saying “Fool me once, shame on you… fool me twice, shame on me” comes into play here.

    None the less, this still feels like a gut-shot. Conspiracy theory aside, the timing on this couldn't be worse. With the ability to seperate ourselves from the pack over the next three games, I hope this team has the ability to block this out; let the higher-ups deal with it, and continue to build on Saturday's W.

    Now, back to popping Xanax pills.

  • kelin

    Ok so the violations don't involved players so to speak but sampson lying…just read it on Indystar.com

    Simple ……..Fire his ASS TODAY!

  • kelin

    Ok so the violations don't involved players so to speak but sampson lying…just read it on Indystar.com

    Simple ……..Fire his ASS TODAY!

  • kelin

    Ok so the violations don't involved players so to speak but sampson lying…just read it on Indystar.com

    Simple ……..Fire his ASS TODAY!

  • JamesHardy

    I would be in favor of hiring MATT PAINTER or someone off his staff…cuz at least he knows how to do it the right way! God…I'm going to hell for saying that!

  • JamesHardy

    I would be in favor of hiring MATT PAINTER or someone off his staff…cuz at least he knows how to do it the right way! God…I'm going to hell for saying that!

  • JamesHardy

    I would be in favor of hiring MATT PAINTER or someone off his staff…cuz at least he knows how to do it the right way! God…I'm going to hell for saying that!

  • T

    I know this situation is very, VERY unlikely.

    But hypothetically, what if they keep Samspon through the end of this year, and then the Hoosiers win the NCAA tournament? Could they still fire him? What would you think?

    I'd still be up for firing Samspon, i'd be curious to see if IU has the balls to do it should that unlikely scenario happen.

  • T

    I know this situation is very, VERY unlikely.

    But hypothetically, what if they keep Samspon through the end of this year, and then the Hoosiers win the NCAA tournament? Could they still fire him? What would you think?

    I'd still be up for firing Samspon, i'd be curious to see if IU has the balls to do it should that unlikely scenario happen.

  • T

    I know this situation is very, VERY unlikely.

    But hypothetically, what if they keep Samspon through the end of this year, and then the Hoosiers win the NCAA tournament? Could they still fire him? What would you think?

    I'd still be up for firing Samspon, i'd be curious to see if IU has the balls to do it should that unlikely scenario happen.

  • IU Swingman

    Anyone that calls themself an IU fan will not boo Sampson tonight. Our players are busting their butts on the court for IU and their coach. Don't make their home game a hostile one.

  • IU Swingman

    Anyone that calls themself an IU fan will not boo Sampson tonight. Our players are busting their butts on the court for IU and their coach. Don't make their home game a hostile one.

  • IU Swingman

    Anyone that calls themself an IU fan will not boo Sampson tonight. Our players are busting their butts on the court for IU and their coach. Don't make their home game a hostile one.

  • deedubbadoo

    Everyone knew this was coming sooner or later. This is the second time he has been in trouble for this sort of thing. He also lied about the situation when confronted about it. Like it or not he broke the rules, text messages, 3-way calls whatever, rules are rules and they are put in place for a reason. He knew what he was doing was wrong, yet he continued to thumb his nose at the NCAA. Now it is time to pay the piper. If you let him stay till the end of the year which is what they should do (best for the team), then once the tourney is over he is out and you better be looking for someone and fast. The man at the top of my list is Mark Few who is whom we should have gotten to replace Davis in the first place!

    I do not want an unproven coach running one of the most storied programs in college hoops. I do not want someone's assistant coach, I think this program and it fans / supporters deserve better. From day one we all knew when they hired Sampson that this was lingering over his head and when he came here, he did it again. I loathe Greenspan for not taking anytime at all with his decision to hire Sampson and investigating the issues now in the end it looks like the program and the players (undeservedly) will shoulder the burden. Makes me sick to my stomach that the same people who were so quick to out RMK were happy to welcome this man into the program.

  • deedubbadoo

    Everyone knew this was coming sooner or later. This is the second time he has been in trouble for this sort of thing. He also lied about the situation when confronted about it. Like it or not he broke the rules, text messages, 3-way calls whatever, rules are rules and they are put in place for a reason. He knew what he was doing was wrong, yet he continued to thumb his nose at the NCAA. Now it is time to pay the piper. If you let him stay till the end of the year which is what they should do (best for the team), then once the tourney is over he is out and you better be looking for someone and fast. The man at the top of my list is Mark Few who is whom we should have gotten to replace Davis in the first place!

    I do not want an unproven coach running one of the most storied programs in college hoops. I do not want someone's assistant coach, I think this program and it fans / supporters deserve better. From day one we all knew when they hired Sampson that this was lingering over his head and when he came here, he did it again. I loathe Greenspan for not taking anytime at all with his decision to hire Sampson and investigating the issues now in the end it looks like the program and the players (undeservedly) will shoulder the burden. Makes me sick to my stomach that the same people who were so quick to out RMK were happy to welcome this man into the program.

  • deedubbadoo

    Everyone knew this was coming sooner or later. This is the second time he has been in trouble for this sort of thing. He also lied about the situation when confronted about it. Like it or not he broke the rules, text messages, 3-way calls whatever, rules are rules and they are put in place for a reason. He knew what he was doing was wrong, yet he continued to thumb his nose at the NCAA. Now it is time to pay the piper. If you let him stay till the end of the year which is what they should do (best for the team), then once the tourney is over he is out and you better be looking for someone and fast. The man at the top of my list is Mark Few who is whom we should have gotten to replace Davis in the first place!

    I do not want an unproven coach running one of the most storied programs in college hoops. I do not want someone's assistant coach, I think this program and it fans / supporters deserve better. From day one we all knew when they hired Sampson that this was lingering over his head and when he came here, he did it again. I loathe Greenspan for not taking anytime at all with his decision to hire Sampson and investigating the issues now in the end it looks like the program and the players (undeservedly) will shoulder the burden. Makes me sick to my stomach that the same people who were so quick to out RMK were happy to welcome this man into the program.

  • peaychris

    oh yea by the way THANK YOU ROGER CLEMENS!!!! he may be more stupid than KS!!!

  • peaychris

    oh yea by the way THANK YOU ROGER CLEMENS!!!! he may be more stupid than KS!!!

  • peaychris

    oh yea by the way THANK YOU ROGER CLEMENS!!!! he may be more stupid than KS!!!

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