Comments on: Hoosiers climb to No. 12 in coaches’ poll http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/ Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:31:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: ronb http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-40881 ronb Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:04:16 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/#comment-40881 Snipper, If it is easy to win 20 games 11 seasons in a row then why are there only 2 coaches in NCAA division 1 with that record?? To just say Sampson had 11 easy seasons is bogus. He coached in 2 big name conferences to get that record. He took teams deep into the NCAA tournament,including the final 4. I guess Coach K had easy schedules also. The games IU lost<br>this year are to good teams. Look at their records. They are all in the top twenty. I don't see any black marks yet,but you may be right only time will<br>tell. As for right now I like a positive spin on this team and coach. You have<br>a right to your negative spin but I hope you are wrong. Snipper, If it is easy to win 20 games 11 seasons in a row then why are there only 2 coaches in NCAA division 1 with that record?? To just say Sampson had 11 easy seasons is bogus. He coached in 2 big name conferences to get that record. He took teams deep into the NCAA tournament,including the final 4. I guess Coach K had easy schedules also. The games IU lost
this year are to good teams. Look at their records. They are all in the top twenty. I don't see any black marks yet,but you may be right only time will
tell. As for right now I like a positive spin on this team and coach. You have
a right to your negative spin but I hope you are wrong.

]]> By: Snipper http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-40880 Snipper Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:34:16 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/#comment-40880 Yes, but how many of IU's wins have been over ranked teams? None. And it's really not hard to win 20 games in a season if you have good material and play a weak pre-conference schedule, which has been in Sampson's favor at both Oklahoma and IU. <br><br>The two road wins have gotten IU headed in the right direction, but face it, the Hoosiers were very lucky at Illinois, and the only impressive thing at Ohio State was the outstanding play of DJ.<br><br>Gordon has not played nearly up to his standards in recent games. I'd like to think it was caused by his sore wrist, but I believe it's more due to Sampson's poorly conceived offense. Against weak teams Eric's natural ability allowed him to score almost at will, but when opposing defenses toughened he needed help from a structured offense that hasn't been there. It will be a black mark against Sampson if he doesn't take full advantage of Gordon's superb talent. Yes, but how many of IU's wins have been over ranked teams? None. And it's really not hard to win 20 games in a season if you have good material and play a weak pre-conference schedule, which has been in Sampson's favor at both Oklahoma and IU.

The two road wins have gotten IU headed in the right direction, but face it, the Hoosiers were very lucky at Illinois, and the only impressive thing at Ohio State was the outstanding play of DJ.

Gordon has not played nearly up to his standards in recent games. I'd like to think it was caused by his sore wrist, but I believe it's more due to Sampson's poorly conceived offense. Against weak teams Eric's natural ability allowed him to score almost at will, but when opposing defenses toughened he needed help from a structured offense that hasn't been there. It will be a black mark against Sampson if he doesn't take full advantage of Gordon's superb talent.

]]> By: ronb http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-17176 ronb Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:04:16 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/#comment-17176 Snipper, If it is easy to win 20 games 11 seasons in a row then why are there only 2 coaches in NCAA division 1 with that record?? To just say Sampson had 11 easy seasons is bogus. He coached in 2 big name conferences to get that record. He took teams deep into the NCAA tournament,including the final 4. I guess Coach K had easy schedules also. The games IU lost<br>this year are to good teams. Look at their records. They are all in the top twenty. I don't see any black marks yet,but you may be right only time will<br>tell. As for right now I like a positive spin on this team and coach. You have<br>a right to your negative spin but I hope you are wrong. Snipper, If it is easy to win 20 games 11 seasons in a row then why are there only 2 coaches in NCAA division 1 with that record?? To just say Sampson had 11 easy seasons is bogus. He coached in 2 big name conferences to get that record. He took teams deep into the NCAA tournament,including the final 4. I guess Coach K had easy schedules also. The games IU lost
this year are to good teams. Look at their records. They are all in the top twenty. I don't see any black marks yet,but you may be right only time will
tell. As for right now I like a positive spin on this team and coach. You have
a right to your negative spin but I hope you are wrong.

]]> By: Snipper http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-17152 Snipper Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:34:16 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/#comment-17152 Yes, but how many of IU's wins have been over ranked teams? None. And it's really not hard to win 20 games in a season if you have good material and play a weak pre-conference schedule, which has been in Sampson's favor at both Oklahoma and IU. <br><br>The two road wins have gotten IU headed in the right direction, but face it, the Hoosiers were very lucky at Illinois, and the only impressive thing at Ohio State was the outstanding play of DJ.<br><br>Gordon has not played nearly up to his standards in recent games. I'd like to think it was caused by his sore wrist, but I believe it's more due to Sampson's poorly conceived offense. Against weak teams Eric's natural ability allowed him to score almost at will, but when opposing defenses toughened he needed help from a structured offense that hasn't been there. It will be a black mark against Sampson if he doesn't take full advantage of Gordon's superb talent. Yes, but how many of IU's wins have been over ranked teams? None. And it's really not hard to win 20 games in a season if you have good material and play a weak pre-conference schedule, which has been in Sampson's favor at both Oklahoma and IU.

The two road wins have gotten IU headed in the right direction, but face it, the Hoosiers were very lucky at Illinois, and the only impressive thing at Ohio State was the outstanding play of DJ.

Gordon has not played nearly up to his standards in recent games. I'd like to think it was caused by his sore wrist, but I believe it's more due to Sampson's poorly conceived offense. Against weak teams Eric's natural ability allowed him to score almost at will, but when opposing defenses toughened he needed help from a structured offense that hasn't been there. It will be a black mark against Sampson if he doesn't take full advantage of Gordon's superb talent.

]]> By: HoosierSmitty http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-17066 HoosierSmitty Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:19:05 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/#comment-17066 I agree. However, with these rankings...it's like your college GPA. Remember how it used to be over a 3.5 after a few good semesters, then you have that one semester where all you did was get drunk and wake up in strange bedrooms? All of the sudden you've got a 2.9 and the makings of a gut...<br><br>Well Purdue's GPA hasn't exactly been eye-popping the last few years and it hit rock bottom with some early season defeats. They have been hard pressed to earn repsect since then, but it's finally coming back. <br><br>I'm personally glad, because I want a real rivalry once again. I agree. However, with these rankings…it's like your college GPA. Remember how it used to be over a 3.5 after a few good semesters, then you have that one semester where all you did was get drunk and wake up in strange bedrooms? All of the sudden you've got a 2.9 and the makings of a gut…

Well Purdue's GPA hasn't exactly been eye-popping the last few years and it hit rock bottom with some early season defeats. They have been hard pressed to earn repsect since then, but it's finally coming back.

I'm personally glad, because I want a real rivalry once again.

]]> By: HoosierSmitty http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-17224 HoosierSmitty Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:13:46 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/#comment-17224 Given the two tough road wins, I'd say we actually earned the ranking this week. It's going to be tough to hold on to that this week. I still think we're a bit overrated, but again, someone has said it in a post above, the polls are pretty much just eye-candy and water cooler talk. What really matters is that Big Ten trophy and we can go a long to having it in our possession with these next three games. Given the two tough road wins, I'd say we actually earned the ranking this week. It's going to be tough to hold on to that this week. I still think we're a bit overrated, but again, someone has said it in a post above, the polls are pretty much just eye-candy and water cooler talk. What really matters is that Big Ten trophy and we can go a long to having it in our possession with these next three games.

]]> By: Ryan_Btown http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-17120 Ryan_Btown Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:07:51 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/#comment-17120 I don't know if you are on this site much but I don't think anyone is all that critical of Sampson. I don't think we're any more critical of him than anyone else would be to their coach. No one on here claims to be an expert and this site just gives everyone a place to vent frustrations when they're not playing well. Even Sampson has blamed himself for the poor play. When they play unmotivated, it would be the coaches job to motivate them. No one is calling for his head (not to speak for everyone on here) and everyone wants them to win (again, not speaking for everyone) but I think it's fair to be able to criticize the team if you want, when necessary. <br><br>And PS... you are correct, all the teams we have lost to are now ranked...however, that means that we have only beat one ranked team...Southern IL. And we all now how they have done since then. I don't know if you are on this site much but I don't think anyone is all that critical of Sampson. I don't think we're any more critical of him than anyone else would be to their coach. No one on here claims to be an expert and this site just gives everyone a place to vent frustrations when they're not playing well. Even Sampson has blamed himself for the poor play. When they play unmotivated, it would be the coaches job to motivate them. No one is calling for his head (not to speak for everyone on here) and everyone wants them to win (again, not speaking for everyone) but I think it's fair to be able to criticize the team if you want, when necessary.

And PS… you are correct, all the teams we have lost to are now ranked…however, that means that we have only beat one ranked team…Southern IL. And we all now how they have done since then.

]]> By: ricky http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-17198 ricky Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:01:42 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/#comment-17198 polls are dumb. not that i am complaining about iu's position in the polls, but we are ahead of every single team that has beaten us. you can give me this reason or that reason, but xavier beat us by 15 on a neutral court, and uconn beat us at home. i dunno, i realize the polls in college basketball have absolutely 0 worth in anything (they are not used by the selection committee), but it just seems like the people who vote don't actually pay attention. id rather us not have a high ranking so the team doesn't feel too good about itself and keeps working hard polls are dumb. not that i am complaining about iu's position in the polls, but we are ahead of every single team that has beaten us. you can give me this reason or that reason, but xavier beat us by 15 on a neutral court, and uconn beat us at home. i dunno, i realize the polls in college basketball have absolutely 0 worth in anything (they are not used by the selection committee), but it just seems like the people who vote don't actually pay attention. id rather us not have a high ranking so the team doesn't feel too good about itself and keeps working hard

]]> By: ronb http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-17091 ronb Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:54:24 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/#comment-17091 I know this will be hard for some of you but Sampson now has 11- 20+ win seasons in a <br>row. There is only 1 active coach with more Coach K at Duke. He has 12. Sampson has been National coach of the year 2 times at a football school! He has and will show<br>he knows what he is doing in spite of the fact that many of you seem to think you would <br>do better. This team is 20-3 and he has them headed into the next 3 games with some<br>very positive road wins. Guys, he knows what he is doing!! Do you think DJ White would<br>be this good if he was still coached by Mike Davis??? Or do you think Jordan Crawford just got better without his coaching?? I think not! You guys have been on the man the whole season> Just step back a miniute. Our 3 losses are to ranked teams.<br>Time to fan up and give this team and it's coaches some credit! I know this will be hard for some of you but Sampson now has 11- 20+ win seasons in a
row. There is only 1 active coach with more Coach K at Duke. He has 12. Sampson has been National coach of the year 2 times at a football school! He has and will show
he knows what he is doing in spite of the fact that many of you seem to think you would
do better. This team is 20-3 and he has them headed into the next 3 games with some
very positive road wins. Guys, he knows what he is doing!! Do you think DJ White would
be this good if he was still coached by Mike Davis??? Or do you think Jordan Crawford just got better without his coaching?? I think not! You guys have been on the man the whole season> Just step back a miniute. Our 3 losses are to ranked teams.
Time to fan up and give this team and it's coaches some credit!

]]> By: SocksShortsSwish http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-17017 SocksShortsSwish Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:36:17 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/02/11/hoosiers-climb-to-no-12-in-coaches-poll/#comment-17017 How is Purdue so low??? How is Purdue so low???

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