Illinois issues statement on fan behavior

  • 02/08/2008 6:15 pm in

Bruce WeberFrom Illinois Director of Athletics Ron Guenther and Basketball Coach Bruce Weber:

Champaign, Ill. – “There was a great college basketball game played Thursday night between the University of Illinois and Indiana University, but the game has been somewhat diminished by inappropriate behavior by a number of fans in attendance. We value the enthusiastic support of the sellout crowds at the Assembly Hall, but above all we take very seriously the reputation of our basketball program and the University of Illinois. The profanity and behavior by a small segment of fans Thursday night is disappointing and intolerable, and for that we apologize to fans of both teams.”

Apparently Guenther and Weber find Chester Frazier’s behavior before the game to be appropriate. At least that’s how I interpret things since his pregame antics were not addressed in this statement. An apology after the fact is pretty much meaningless. The probability for this type of behavior was almost certain and warnings should have been issued to the Illinois fans and players before the game took place.

The reality is that Bruce Weber has lost credibility for his handling of the entire Gordon situation. He’s basically turned into a laughing stock. His team is horrible. He’s one of the biggest whiners in coaching. And worst of all, he makes some of the ugliest facial expressions known to man.

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  • ronb

    What bothers me about their statement is the fact that it was to the “fans of both teams”.
    What about to EJ,the team,IU coaches and to EJ's Family???? They are not mentioned
    because Weber,Guenther and team are not sorry and still blaming Ej,family and coach
    Sampson for their bad season. I really hope Weber continues to cry about this. Maybe
    he will cry himself into getting fired!!

  • ronb

    What bothers me about their statement is the fact that it was to the “fans of both teams”.
    What about to EJ,the team,IU coaches and to EJ's Family???? They are not mentioned
    because Weber,Guenther and team are not sorry and still blaming Ej,family and coach
    Sampson for their bad season. I really hope Weber continues to cry about this. Maybe
    he will cry himself into getting fired!!

  • ronb

    What bothers me about their statement is the fact that it was to the “fans of both teams”.
    What about to EJ,the team,IU coaches and to EJ's Family???? They are not mentioned
    because Weber,Guenther and team are not sorry and still blaming Ej,family and coach
    Sampson for their bad season. I really hope Weber continues to cry about this. Maybe
    he will cry himself into getting fired!!

  • xxZPxx

    haha nice point…we commented about that too during the game. There was one particular girl who had a nice close up for 3 seconds but it seemed as soon as she realized she was on camera and looked into it, ESPN booted her ass…hilarious

  • xxZPxx

    haha nice point…we commented about that too during the game. There was one particular girl who had a nice close up for 3 seconds but it seemed as soon as she realized she was on camera and looked into it, ESPN booted her ass…hilarious

  • xxZPxx

    haha nice point…we commented about that too during the game. There was one particular girl who had a nice close up for 3 seconds but it seemed as soon as she realized she was on camera and looked into it, ESPN booted her ass…hilarious

  • dabig

    I didn't think the bump was that big of a deal; just part of a usual Big Ten game. Bilas had to have something to get hyped up about, and this was it. I did like looking at that cheerleader every time they replayed the bump, though.
    Throwing stuff at Gordon's parents is a completely different matter. I don't know if the fans knew they were throwing at Gordon's parents or if they were just throwing at the Indiana fan section. Either way, it shows that Illinois fans are a bunch of pigs. They don't even do stuff like that at Duke.

  • dabig

    I didn't think the bump was that big of a deal; just part of a usual Big Ten game. Bilas had to have something to get hyped up about, and this was it. I did like looking at that cheerleader every time they replayed the bump, though.
    Throwing stuff at Gordon's parents is a completely different matter. I don't know if the fans knew they were throwing at Gordon's parents or if they were just throwing at the Indiana fan section. Either way, it shows that Illinois fans are a bunch of pigs. They don't even do stuff like that at Duke.

  • dabig

    I didn't think the bump was that big of a deal; just part of a usual Big Ten game. Bilas had to have something to get hyped up about, and this was it. I did like looking at that cheerleader every time they replayed the bump, though.
    Throwing stuff at Gordon's parents is a completely different matter. I don't know if the fans knew they were throwing at Gordon's parents or if they were just throwing at the Indiana fan section. Either way, it shows that Illinois fans are a bunch of pigs. They don't even do stuff like that at Duke.

  • Jay

    Thanks MP and PF. I haven't seen it, and appreciate insight from someone who has. Go IU. I also wonder: what if IU fans who traveled to the game treated the Illinois president that way? They would have been thrown out in minutes. So why is it okay to treat a teenager that way? The answer is, it isn't. By the way, I'm a Hoosier, but live in Madison, WI. At our home games, they always announce that certain behavior directed at visiting teams or fans WILL NOT BE TOLERATED and anyone doing such things will be removed immediately, and may lose their season tickets (without getting their money back). Illinois could take a lesson from that. By the way, I've seen fans kicked out, and yes, they were removed immediately. They got no warnings other than the first announcement.

  • Jay

    Thanks MP and PF. I haven't seen it, and appreciate insight from someone who has. Go IU. I also wonder: what if IU fans who traveled to the game treated the Illinois president that way? They would have been thrown out in minutes. So why is it okay to treat a teenager that way? The answer is, it isn't. By the way, I'm a Hoosier, but live in Madison, WI. At our home games, they always announce that certain behavior directed at visiting teams or fans WILL NOT BE TOLERATED and anyone doing such things will be removed immediately, and may lose their season tickets (without getting their money back). Illinois could take a lesson from that. By the way, I've seen fans kicked out, and yes, they were removed immediately. They got no warnings other than the first announcement.

  • Jay

    Thanks MP and PF. I haven't seen it, and appreciate insight from someone who has. Go IU. I also wonder: what if IU fans who traveled to the game treated the Illinois president that way? They would have been thrown out in minutes. So why is it okay to treat a teenager that way? The answer is, it isn't. By the way, I'm a Hoosier, but live in Madison, WI. At our home games, they always announce that certain behavior directed at visiting teams or fans WILL NOT BE TOLERATED and anyone doing such things will be removed immediately, and may lose their season tickets (without getting their money back). Illinois could take a lesson from that. By the way, I've seen fans kicked out, and yes, they were removed immediately. They got no warnings other than the first announcement.

  • i dont think it was a huge deal, but the problem i had with “the bump” was that it wasn't during the game.

    from the opening tip to the final buzzer, you can kick, scratch and claw your way (within reason) to a win and i don't have a problem with it. but the pregame introductions as well as the postgame handshakes are about sportsmanship. it is about shaking hands and giving your opponent respect. chester frazier failed to do that, and bruce weber failed to do that postgame. that was not an appropriate time for frazier to “send a mesage.”

    i dont mind that frazier was fired up, he and every other illini player should've been given the circumstances. but he should have saved the theatrics for the game. what he did lacked class and was disrespectful not only to gordon but to the enitre IU team.

  • i dont think it was a huge deal, but the problem i had with “the bump” was that it wasn't during the game.

    from the opening tip to the final buzzer, you can kick, scratch and claw your way (within reason) to a win and i don't have a problem with it. but the pregame introductions as well as the postgame handshakes are about sportsmanship. it is about shaking hands and giving your opponent respect. chester frazier failed to do that, and bruce weber failed to do that postgame. that was not an appropriate time for frazier to “send a mesage.”

    i dont mind that frazier was fired up, he and every other illini player should've been given the circumstances. but he should have saved the theatrics for the game. what he did lacked class and was disrespectful not only to gordon but to the enitre IU team.

  • i dont think it was a huge deal, but the problem i had with “the bump” was that it wasn't during the game.

    from the opening tip to the final buzzer, you can kick, scratch and claw your way (within reason) to a win and i don't have a problem with it. but the pregame introductions as well as the postgame handshakes are about sportsmanship. it is about shaking hands and giving your opponent respect. chester frazier failed to do that, and bruce weber failed to do that postgame. that was not an appropriate time for frazier to “send a mesage.”

    i dont mind that frazier was fired up, he and every other illini player should've been given the circumstances. but he should have saved the theatrics for the game. what he did lacked class and was disrespectful not only to gordon but to the enitre IU team.

  • kelin

    Slightly off topic or majorly off topic…
    I am not going get pissed…YET
    PU 42-Wisc 32 at the half…….

    younger team, less talent, better coach…..

  • kelin

    Slightly off topic or majorly off topic…
    I am not going get pissed…YET
    PU 42-Wisc 32 at the half…….

    younger team, less talent, better coach…..

  • kelin

    Slightly off topic or majorly off topic…
    I am not going get pissed…YET
    PU 42-Wisc 32 at the half…….

    younger team, less talent, better coach…..

  • hoosiersoxfan92

    If wisconsin loses than we're screwed because they wont lose 2 in a row and they play indiana monday

  • hoosiersoxfan92

    If wisconsin loses than we're screwed because they wont lose 2 in a row and they play indiana monday

  • hoosiersoxfan92

    If wisconsin loses than we're screwed because they wont lose 2 in a row and they play indiana monday

  • hoosiersoxfan92

    i mean wednesday

  • hoosiersoxfan92

    i mean wednesday

  • hoosiersoxfan92

    i mean wednesday

  • Tom

    i agree, to bump during the pregame greeting is bush league. totally uncalled for.

  • Tom

    i agree, to bump during the pregame greeting is bush league. totally uncalled for.

  • Tom

    i agree, to bump during the pregame greeting is bush league. totally uncalled for.

  • kelin

    Well……..they are about to lose ……in 3-2-1……….
    I think IU can beat them at home…I THINK….it just pisses me off that a younger and less talented team can go into there and win and IU barely competes.

    At least we beat Illinois

    So do we play OSU, Wisconsin, and PU? is that our next 3?

  • kelin

    Well……..they are about to lose ……in 3-2-1……….
    I think IU can beat them at home…I THINK….it just pisses me off that a younger and less talented team can go into there and win and IU barely competes.

    At least we beat Illinois

    So do we play OSU, Wisconsin, and PU? is that our next 3?

  • Dale

    osu, wisconsin, mich st, then purdue

  • Dale

    osu, wisconsin, mich st, then purdue

  • kelin

    Is anyone else slightly pissed about PU going up there and winning and IU struggling or am I overreacting? Please feel free to slam me…..

    I got thick skin when I am wrong

    screening 2008 “Yes We Should”

  • kelin

    Is anyone else slightly pissed about PU going up there and winning and IU struggling or am I overreacting? Please feel free to slam me…..

    I got thick skin when I am wrong

    screening 2008 “Yes We Should”

  • MPmike

    Don't underestimate IU at home. Granted IU did recently had their home winning streak snapped by a hot UConn team that has played well enough to win all of their games this year.
    Wisconsin is not that good of a team. Purdue just showed it Saturday night. Wisconsin had lousy shooting nights in both the IU and Purdue games. The difference in the outcome was that Purdue shot lights out for the entire game. IU could not hit the side of a barn. Wisconsin's turnovers were high against PU, and they took care of the ball against IU.

    IU will beat Wisconsin on Wednesday night. YOU CAN BET ON IT!

  • MPmike

    Don't underestimate IU at home. Granted IU did recently had their home winning streak snapped by a hot UConn team that has played well enough to win all of their games this year.
    Wisconsin is not that good of a team. Purdue just showed it Saturday night. Wisconsin had lousy shooting nights in both the IU and Purdue games. The difference in the outcome was that Purdue shot lights out for the entire game. IU could not hit the side of a barn. Wisconsin's turnovers were high against PU, and they took care of the ball against IU.

    IU will beat Wisconsin on Wednesday night. YOU CAN BET ON IT!

  • MPmike

    Don't underestimate IU at home. Granted IU did recently had their home winning streak snapped by a hot UConn team that has played well enough to win all of their games this year.
    Wisconsin is not that good of a team. Purdue just showed it Saturday night. Wisconsin had lousy shooting nights in both the IU and Purdue games. The difference in the outcome was that Purdue shot lights out for the entire game. IU could not hit the side of a barn. Wisconsin's turnovers were high against PU, and they took care of the ball against IU.

    IU will beat Wisconsin on Wednesday night. YOU CAN BET ON IT!

  • Jerry

    It seems I almost always agree with you.
    We are in trouble again today w matchups in the man defense….not good ….so I look to outscore them.

    In order to outscore them we need more scorers playing more minutes ( Crawford, McGee ). In order for more scorers to score Gordon must make guys around him better by dishing off the drive instead of going all the way each and every time

    Bassett drove 2 times and netted 5 while Gordon drove more than 8 times and netted only 8 pts against UI

    I think we lose today on matchups but that is OK if we see dramatic improvement , then I can feel better about the next games

  • Jerry

    It seems I almost always agree with you.
    We are in trouble again today w matchups in the man defense….not good ….so I look to outscore them.

    In order to outscore them we need more scorers playing more minutes ( Crawford, McGee ). In order for more scorers to score Gordon must make guys around him better by dishing off the drive instead of going all the way each and every time

    Bassett drove 2 times and netted 5 while Gordon drove more than 8 times and netted only 8 pts against UI

    I think we lose today on matchups but that is OK if we see dramatic improvement , then I can feel better about the next games

  • Jerry

    It seems I almost always agree with you.
    We are in trouble again today w matchups in the man defense….not good ….so I look to outscore them.

    In order to outscore them we need more scorers playing more minutes ( Crawford, McGee ). In order for more scorers to score Gordon must make guys around him better by dishing off the drive instead of going all the way each and every time

    Bassett drove 2 times and netted 5 while Gordon drove more than 8 times and netted only 8 pts against UI

    I think we lose today on matchups but that is OK if we see dramatic improvement , then I can feel better about the next games

  • ray

    agreed…that was classless. agreed…weber is a laughing stock. agreed…it is obvious that weber and guenther find nothing wrong with how frazier acted.

    those who give knight such a hard time should remember this incident. i can almost certainly tell you that knight would have talks of suspension for the inappropriate behavior of “punk a– b—-” frazier, and at the very least would have given him splinters by leaving him on the pine for the remainder (all of) the game.

    as far as the fans go, when they mentioned that fans were intimidating gordon's family and fan base by throwing things in their direction, i can again almost certainly tell you that knight would have stopped the game and made a public announcement…it's been done by knight in the past when hoosier fans were out of line.

    weber has no handle on this team, and if i were a fan of illinois i would be very displeased with how he handled this situation the other night…or should i say how he didn't handle the situation. from what i witnessed during the postgame coaches' hand shake i would say that weber was out of line in a manner i'm used to seeing from a (no need to name names) NFL coach in New England.

  • ray

    agreed…that was classless. agreed…weber is a laughing stock. agreed…it is obvious that weber and guenther find nothing wrong with how frazier acted.

    those who give knight such a hard time should remember this incident. i can almost certainly tell you that knight would have talks of suspension for the inappropriate behavior of “punk a– b—-” frazier, and at the very least would have given him splinters by leaving him on the pine for the remainder (all of) the game.

    as far as the fans go, when they mentioned that fans were intimidating gordon's family and fan base by throwing things in their direction, i can again almost certainly tell you that knight would have stopped the game and made a public announcement…it's been done by knight in the past when hoosier fans were out of line.

    weber has no handle on this team, and if i were a fan of illinois i would be very displeased with how he handled this situation the other night…or should i say how he didn't handle the situation. from what i witnessed during the postgame coaches' hand shake i would say that weber was out of line in a manner i'm used to seeing from a (no need to name names) NFL coach in New England.

  • ray

    agreed…that was classless. agreed…weber is a laughing stock. agreed…it is obvious that weber and guenther find nothing wrong with how frazier acted.

    those who give knight such a hard time should remember this incident. i can almost certainly tell you that knight would have talks of suspension for the inappropriate behavior of “punk a– b—-” frazier, and at the very least would have given him splinters by leaving him on the pine for the remainder (all of) the game.

    as far as the fans go, when they mentioned that fans were intimidating gordon's family and fan base by throwing things in their direction, i can again almost certainly tell you that knight would have stopped the game and made a public announcement…it's been done by knight in the past when hoosier fans were out of line.

    weber has no handle on this team, and if i were a fan of illinois i would be very displeased with how he handled this situation the other night…or should i say how he didn't handle the situation. from what i witnessed during the postgame coaches' hand shake i would say that weber was out of line in a manner i'm used to seeing from a (no need to name names) NFL coach in New England.

  • ray

    kelin,

    being an iu fan i must say it's hard to root for purdue, but i was excited to watch this game with the hopes of this exact outcome. i wanted to see purdue beat wisconsin. iu only plays purdue once and it's in bloomington. we should be able to win at home against purdue, wisconsin, and michigan state…i'll say it again, we “should”.

    with purdue defeating wisconsin, that puts two losses on wisconsin. the way i see it, wisconsin and michigan state with two losses is very helpful. we play purdue at home, and with a win against purdue that puts iu ahead of the pack. the troubling question is, can iu beat purdue at home? purdue is full of young talent and seemingly has a very good coach…so i don't think it was a fluke. they play extremely good defense. i think that when purdue comes to play in bloomington we can hopefully count on a less-stellar shooting performance from purdue than what they showed against wisconsin.

    with purdue only playing iu once and at bloomington, all iu has to do is protect home court. if iu and purdue end up with the same record, the title belongs to iu outright…that is if indiana can finish strong without losing more than one more time (and iu needs to beat wisconsin and michigan state at home).

    if so, michigan state and wisconsin will have three losses.

    this means that iu could lose in east lansing and still wear the b10-crown!

    sorry to ramble, but this is why i was excited to see purdue knock off wisconsin.

  • ray

    kelin,

    being an iu fan i must say it's hard to root for purdue, but i was excited to watch this game with the hopes of this exact outcome. i wanted to see purdue beat wisconsin. iu only plays purdue once and it's in bloomington. we should be able to win at home against purdue, wisconsin, and michigan state…i'll say it again, we “should”.

    with purdue defeating wisconsin, that puts two losses on wisconsin. the way i see it, wisconsin and michigan state with two losses is very helpful. we play purdue at home, and with a win against purdue that puts iu ahead of the pack. the troubling question is, can iu beat purdue at home? purdue is full of young talent and seemingly has a very good coach…so i don't think it was a fluke. they play extremely good defense. i think that when purdue comes to play in bloomington we can hopefully count on a less-stellar shooting performance from purdue than what they showed against wisconsin.

    with purdue only playing iu once and at bloomington, all iu has to do is protect home court. if iu and purdue end up with the same record, the title belongs to iu outright…that is if indiana can finish strong without losing more than one more time (and iu needs to beat wisconsin and michigan state at home).

    if so, michigan state and wisconsin will have three losses.

    this means that iu could lose in east lansing and still wear the b10-crown!

    sorry to ramble, but this is why i was excited to see purdue knock off wisconsin.

  • ray

    kelin,

    being an iu fan i must say it's hard to root for purdue, but i was excited to watch this game with the hopes of this exact outcome. i wanted to see purdue beat wisconsin. iu only plays purdue once and it's in bloomington. we should be able to win at home against purdue, wisconsin, and michigan state…i'll say it again, we “should”.

    with purdue defeating wisconsin, that puts two losses on wisconsin. the way i see it, wisconsin and michigan state with two losses is very helpful. we play purdue at home, and with a win against purdue that puts iu ahead of the pack. the troubling question is, can iu beat purdue at home? purdue is full of young talent and seemingly has a very good coach…so i don't think it was a fluke. they play extremely good defense. i think that when purdue comes to play in bloomington we can hopefully count on a less-stellar shooting performance from purdue than what they showed against wisconsin.

    with purdue only playing iu once and at bloomington, all iu has to do is protect home court. if iu and purdue end up with the same record, the title belongs to iu outright…that is if indiana can finish strong without losing more than one more time (and iu needs to beat wisconsin and michigan state at home).

    if so, michigan state and wisconsin will have three losses.

    this means that iu could lose in east lansing and still wear the b10-crown!

    sorry to ramble, but this is why i was excited to see purdue knock off wisconsin.

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