Comments on: Hoosiers climb to No. 8 in coaches poll http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/ Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:24:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: tacojohn http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-40882 tacojohn Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:26:34 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-40882 I think the Big Ten has settled into three distinct tiers:<br><br>1. Contenders - IU, MSU, Wisconsin<br>2. Tournament/bubble teams - Ohio State, Purdue, Minnesota (although with two home losses this is a little tougher)<br>3. Bottom feeders - Michigan, Iowa, Penn State, Northwestern, Illinois<br><br>The Big 10 is down for two reasons. First, the bottom of the conference is awful. Second, the 4th and 5th place teams, who should be gunning for top-half NCAA seeds are young teams that are prone to ups and downs. Considering the growing pains and maturation process, I think we're headed for yet another season where the Big 10 is down for the whole year until tourney time, when the top teams will go on runs and Purdue and OSU will surprise. I think the Big Ten has settled into three distinct tiers:

1. Contenders – IU, MSU, Wisconsin
2. Tournament/bubble teams – Ohio State, Purdue, Minnesota (although with two home losses this is a little tougher)
3. Bottom feeders – Michigan, Iowa, Penn State, Northwestern, Illinois

The Big 10 is down for two reasons. First, the bottom of the conference is awful. Second, the 4th and 5th place teams, who should be gunning for top-half NCAA seeds are young teams that are prone to ups and downs. Considering the growing pains and maturation process, I think we're headed for yet another season where the Big 10 is down for the whole year until tourney time, when the top teams will go on runs and Purdue and OSU will surprise.

]]> By: tacojohn http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-40883 tacojohn Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:33:18 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-40883 But at the same time, mid-majors still get the bonus if they knock off BCS teams. If Butler was to beat IU, it would not be looked at like #7 vs. #14. It would be big mighty IU vs. little tiny Butler. That's what's wrong with the system. Mid-majors get the bonus on both sides. But at the same time, mid-majors still get the bonus if they knock off BCS teams. If Butler was to beat IU, it would not be looked at like #7 vs. #14. It would be big mighty IU vs. little tiny Butler. That's what's wrong with the system. Mid-majors get the bonus on both sides.

]]> By: tacojohn http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-19012 tacojohn Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:26:34 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-19012 I think the Big Ten has settled into three distinct tiers:<br><br>1. Contenders - IU, MSU, Wisconsin<br>2. Tournament/bubble teams - Ohio State, Purdue, Minnesota (although with two home losses this is a little tougher)<br>3. Bottom feeders - Michigan, Iowa, Penn State, Northwestern, Illinois<br><br>The Big 10 is down for two reasons. First, the bottom of the conference is awful. Second, the 4th and 5th place teams, who should be gunning for top-half NCAA seeds are young teams that are prone to ups and downs. Considering the growing pains and maturation process, I think we're headed for yet another season where the Big 10 is down for the whole year until tourney time, when the top teams will go on runs and Purdue and OSU will surprise. I think the Big Ten has settled into three distinct tiers:

1. Contenders – IU, MSU, Wisconsin
2. Tournament/bubble teams – Ohio State, Purdue, Minnesota (although with two home losses this is a little tougher)
3. Bottom feeders – Michigan, Iowa, Penn State, Northwestern, Illinois

The Big 10 is down for two reasons. First, the bottom of the conference is awful. Second, the 4th and 5th place teams, who should be gunning for top-half NCAA seeds are young teams that are prone to ups and downs. Considering the growing pains and maturation process, I think we're headed for yet another season where the Big 10 is down for the whole year until tourney time, when the top teams will go on runs and Purdue and OSU will surprise.

]]> By: tacojohn http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-32622 tacojohn Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:26:34 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-32622 I think the Big Ten has settled into three distinct tiers:<br><br>1. Contenders - IU, MSU, Wisconsin<br>2. Tournament/bubble teams - Ohio State, Purdue, Minnesota (although with two home losses this is a little tougher)<br>3. Bottom feeders - Michigan, Iowa, Penn State, Northwestern, Illinois<br><br>The Big 10 is down for two reasons. First, the bottom of the conference is awful. Second, the 4th and 5th place teams, who should be gunning for top-half NCAA seeds are young teams that are prone to ups and downs. Considering the growing pains and maturation process, I think we're headed for yet another season where the Big 10 is down for the whole year until tourney time, when the top teams will go on runs and Purdue and OSU will surprise. I think the Big Ten has settled into three distinct tiers:

1. Contenders – IU, MSU, Wisconsin
2. Tournament/bubble teams – Ohio State, Purdue, Minnesota (although with two home losses this is a little tougher)
3. Bottom feeders – Michigan, Iowa, Penn State, Northwestern, Illinois

The Big 10 is down for two reasons. First, the bottom of the conference is awful. Second, the 4th and 5th place teams, who should be gunning for top-half NCAA seeds are young teams that are prone to ups and downs. Considering the growing pains and maturation process, I think we're headed for yet another season where the Big 10 is down for the whole year until tourney time, when the top teams will go on runs and Purdue and OSU will surprise.

]]> By: tacojohn http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-19023 tacojohn Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:33:18 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-19023 But at the same time, mid-majors still get the bonus if they knock off BCS teams. If Butler was to beat IU, it would not be looked at like #7 vs. #14. It would be big mighty IU vs. little tiny Butler. That's what's wrong with the system. Mid-majors get the bonus on both sides. But at the same time, mid-majors still get the bonus if they knock off BCS teams. If Butler was to beat IU, it would not be looked at like #7 vs. #14. It would be big mighty IU vs. little tiny Butler. That's what's wrong with the system. Mid-majors get the bonus on both sides.

]]> By: tacojohn http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-32632 tacojohn Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:33:18 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-32632 But at the same time, mid-majors still get the bonus if they knock off BCS teams. If Butler was to beat IU, it would not be looked at like #7 vs. #14. It would be big mighty IU vs. little tiny Butler. That's what's wrong with the system. Mid-majors get the bonus on both sides. But at the same time, mid-majors still get the bonus if they knock off BCS teams. If Butler was to beat IU, it would not be looked at like #7 vs. #14. It would be big mighty IU vs. little tiny Butler. That's what's wrong with the system. Mid-majors get the bonus on both sides.

]]> By: ray http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-19025 ray Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:57:44 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-19025 they shouldnt be ranked any lower because however closely they are winning, they are still winning. they shouldnt be any higher until they knock off connecticut and wisconsin (on the road)...then they better rise for sure! the next two weeks are huge for iu to prove themselves deserving of a top ten rank and a legitimate contender for big ten and national titles. they shouldnt be ranked any lower because however closely they are winning, they are still winning. they shouldnt be any higher until they knock off connecticut and wisconsin (on the road)…then they better rise for sure! the next two weeks are huge for iu to prove themselves deserving of a top ten rank and a legitimate contender for big ten and national titles.

]]> By: ray http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-32634 ray Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:57:44 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-32634 they shouldnt be ranked any lower because however closely they are winning, they are still winning. they shouldnt be any higher until they knock off connecticut and wisconsin (on the road)...then they better rise for sure! the next two weeks are huge for iu to prove themselves deserving of a top ten rank and a legitimate contender for big ten and national titles. they shouldnt be ranked any lower because however closely they are winning, they are still winning. they shouldnt be any higher until they knock off connecticut and wisconsin (on the road)…then they better rise for sure! the next two weeks are huge for iu to prove themselves deserving of a top ten rank and a legitimate contender for big ten and national titles.

]]> By: HoosierSmitty http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-19020 HoosierSmitty Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:42:14 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-19020 I'm surprised that Butler didn't drop further. Just goes to show that mid-major programs are getting a lot more respect in this day and age. A few years ago and a two loss mid major program at this time of the year is maybe in the Top 20, but probably not any higher. I'm surprised that Butler didn't drop further. Just goes to show that mid-major programs are getting a lot more respect in this day and age. A few years ago and a two loss mid major program at this time of the year is maybe in the Top 20, but probably not any higher.

]]> By: HoosierSmitty http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-32630 HoosierSmitty Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:42:14 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-32630 I'm surprised that Butler didn't drop further. Just goes to show that mid-major programs are getting a lot more respect in this day and age. A few years ago and a two loss mid major program at this time of the year is maybe in the Top 20, but probably not any higher. I'm surprised that Butler didn't drop further. Just goes to show that mid-major programs are getting a lot more respect in this day and age. A few years ago and a two loss mid major program at this time of the year is maybe in the Top 20, but probably not any higher.

]]> By: Jmoney2584 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-19019 Jmoney2584 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:58:55 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-19019 I think we are just about right...maybe if we got put at #7 ahead of UCLA, but i can live with 8. If we can learn from the mistakes we made the LAST time we played Iowa and put on a convincing win, on top of taking down UConn I think we are in good shape. The biggest game of the year thus far is the roadie to Wisconsin coming up. We need to get all the bugs worked out of our system here at home and translate that into that game...going to be a lot of eyes on that matchup and we have a lot to prove but a lot more to lose. I think we are just about right…maybe if we got put at #7 ahead of UCLA, but i can live with 8. If we can learn from the mistakes we made the LAST time we played Iowa and put on a convincing win, on top of taking down UConn I think we are in good shape. The biggest game of the year thus far is the roadie to Wisconsin coming up. We need to get all the bugs worked out of our system here at home and translate that into that game…going to be a lot of eyes on that matchup and we have a lot to prove but a lot more to lose.

]]> By: Jmoney2584 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-32628 Jmoney2584 Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:58:55 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-32628 I think we are just about right...maybe if we got put at #7 ahead of UCLA, but i can live with 8. If we can learn from the mistakes we made the LAST time we played Iowa and put on a convincing win, on top of taking down UConn I think we are in good shape. The biggest game of the year thus far is the roadie to Wisconsin coming up. We need to get all the bugs worked out of our system here at home and translate that into that game...going to be a lot of eyes on that matchup and we have a lot to prove but a lot more to lose. I think we are just about right…maybe if we got put at #7 ahead of UCLA, but i can live with 8. If we can learn from the mistakes we made the LAST time we played Iowa and put on a convincing win, on top of taking down UConn I think we are in good shape. The biggest game of the year thus far is the roadie to Wisconsin coming up. We need to get all the bugs worked out of our system here at home and translate that into that game…going to be a lot of eyes on that matchup and we have a lot to prove but a lot more to lose.

]]> By: Tim http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-19016 Tim Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:37:52 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-19016 I think we should be ranked higher than UCLA, other than that i think they got it right I think we should be ranked higher than UCLA, other than that i think they got it right

]]> By: Tim http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-32627 Tim Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:37:52 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-32627 I think we should be ranked higher than UCLA, other than that i think they got it right I think we should be ranked higher than UCLA, other than that i think they got it right

]]> By: shpiders http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-19014 shpiders Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:12:16 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-19014 IU is probably pretty close to the right ranking. <br><br>Top 10 yes, but at this point even as an IU homer, I don't know if I can say top 5.<br><br>I saw in the AP that they're ahead of UCLA and a week ago everyone was saying UCLA is pretty much guaranteed to be one of the #1 seeds. IU is probably pretty close to the right ranking.

Top 10 yes, but at this point even as an IU homer, I don't know if I can say top 5.

I saw in the AP that they're ahead of UCLA and a week ago everyone was saying UCLA is pretty much guaranteed to be one of the #1 seeds.

]]> By: shpiders http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-32625 shpiders Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:12:16 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-32625 IU is probably pretty close to the right ranking. <br><br>Top 10 yes, but at this point even as an IU homer, I don't know if I can say top 5.<br><br>I saw in the AP that they're ahead of UCLA and a week ago everyone was saying UCLA is pretty much guaranteed to be one of the #1 seeds. IU is probably pretty close to the right ranking.

Top 10 yes, but at this point even as an IU homer, I don't know if I can say top 5.

I saw in the AP that they're ahead of UCLA and a week ago everyone was saying UCLA is pretty much guaranteed to be one of the #1 seeds.

]]> By: Eamonn http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-19011 Eamonn Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:55:50 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-19011 I think the Big Ten is still "down", despite those three teams being ranked so highly. Depth in the conference is just awful this year, even worse than usual. But I think IU, MSU, and Wisconsin are all legit. It just doesn't stretch any deeper than that; that's a bad conference. I think the Big Ten is still “down”, despite those three teams being ranked so highly. Depth in the conference is just awful this year, even worse than usual. But I think IU, MSU, and Wisconsin are all legit. It just doesn't stretch any deeper than that; that's a bad conference.

]]> By: Eamonn http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-32621 Eamonn Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:55:50 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-32621 I think the Big Ten is still "down", despite those three teams being ranked so highly. Depth in the conference is just awful this year, even worse than usual. But I think IU, MSU, and Wisconsin are all legit. It just doesn't stretch any deeper than that; that's a bad conference. I think the Big Ten is still “down”, despite those three teams being ranked so highly. Depth in the conference is just awful this year, even worse than usual. But I think IU, MSU, and Wisconsin are all legit. It just doesn't stretch any deeper than that; that's a bad conference.

]]> By: HoosierSmitty http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-19009 HoosierSmitty Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:50:21 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-19009 Even though IU has yet to prove itself with a signature win...I think we're probably a Top 10 team. I still worry that the higher we climb, the harder we fall. We keep climbing because other teams keep losing. However, we're winning the games we should win, no matter how ugly. <br><br>There really are not any other teams capable of competing for the Big Ten title...just based on the feeling that MSU, Wisc and Indiana are the only 3 capable of making a run at the Final Four. <br><br>Then you have Purdue, Ohio State, Minnesota and even Illinois that worry me more than any other teams. <br><br>Then the Bottom Four of Penn State, Iowa, Michigan, and Northwestern should not provide any problems to the top 3 teams....even though Iowa beat Michigan State and IU struggled there as well. <br><br>Lunardi of ESPN has finally included Purdue in the NCAA tournament, along with OSU. I would think the Purdue, based on the victory over OSU is the No. 4 in the conference, followed by 5. OSU 6. Minnesota 7. Illinois 8. Penn State 9. Iowa 10. Michigan 11 . Northwestern Even though IU has yet to prove itself with a signature win…I think we're probably a Top 10 team. I still worry that the higher we climb, the harder we fall. We keep climbing because other teams keep losing. However, we're winning the games we should win, no matter how ugly.

There really are not any other teams capable of competing for the Big Ten title…just based on the feeling that MSU, Wisc and Indiana are the only 3 capable of making a run at the Final Four.

Then you have Purdue, Ohio State, Minnesota and even Illinois that worry me more than any other teams.

Then the Bottom Four of Penn State, Iowa, Michigan, and Northwestern should not provide any problems to the top 3 teams….even though Iowa beat Michigan State and IU struggled there as well.

Lunardi of ESPN has finally included Purdue in the NCAA tournament, along with OSU. I would think the Purdue, based on the victory over OSU is the No. 4 in the conference, followed by 5. OSU 6. Minnesota 7. Illinois 8. Penn State 9. Iowa 10. Michigan 11 . Northwestern

]]> By: HoosierSmitty http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-32619 HoosierSmitty Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:50:21 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2008/01/21/hoosiers-climb-to-no-8-in-coaches-poll/#comment-32619 Even though IU has yet to prove itself with a signature win...I think we're probably a Top 10 team. I still worry that the higher we climb, the harder we fall. We keep climbing because other teams keep losing. However, we're winning the games we should win, no matter how ugly. <br><br>There really are not any other teams capable of competing for the Big Ten title...just based on the feeling that MSU, Wisc and Indiana are the only 3 capable of making a run at the Final Four. <br><br>Then you have Purdue, Ohio State, Minnesota and even Illinois that worry me more than any other teams. <br><br>Then the Bottom Four of Penn State, Iowa, Michigan, and Northwestern should not provide any problems to the top 3 teams....even though Iowa beat Michigan State and IU struggled there as well. <br><br>Lunardi of ESPN has finally included Purdue in the NCAA tournament, along with OSU. I would think the Purdue, based on the victory over OSU is the No. 4 in the conference, followed by 5. OSU 6. Minnesota 7. Illinois 8. Penn State 9. Iowa 10. Michigan 11 . Northwestern Even though IU has yet to prove itself with a signature win…I think we're probably a Top 10 team. I still worry that the higher we climb, the harder we fall. We keep climbing because other teams keep losing. However, we're winning the games we should win, no matter how ugly.

There really are not any other teams capable of competing for the Big Ten title…just based on the feeling that MSU, Wisc and Indiana are the only 3 capable of making a run at the Final Four.

Then you have Purdue, Ohio State, Minnesota and even Illinois that worry me more than any other teams.

Then the Bottom Four of Penn State, Iowa, Michigan, and Northwestern should not provide any problems to the top 3 teams….even though Iowa beat Michigan State and IU struggled there as well.

Lunardi of ESPN has finally included Purdue in the NCAA tournament, along with OSU. I would think the Purdue, based on the victory over OSU is the No. 4 in the conference, followed by 5. OSU 6. Minnesota 7. Illinois 8. Penn State 9. Iowa 10. Michigan 11 . Northwestern

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