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The Morning After: Georgia Tech

by Eamonn Brennan in Morning After | November 28th, 2007

sampsonclose2.jpgA win is a win, sure, but there was plenty to complain about during IU’s 83-79 win over Georgia Tech last night. So let’s get into it. Hopefully this doesn’t become a recurring theme, because this team is too talented to grumble about all year.

– Turnovers. As in, too many of them. As in 17 of them. That’s not a catastrophic number by any means — when the number creeps up into the 20’s we can begin to really worry — but last night, the Hoosiers looked too prone to turnovers. Part of the reason was a sped-up pace driven by Georgia Tech’s effective full-court press, and the other part was general sloppiness by IU’s guards. Armon Bassett, Eric Gordon, Jamarcus Ellis — each is prone to unwieldy passes and errant dribbles, and the results kept Georgia Tech in the game longer than anticipated.

– Beyond turnovers, IU’s defense was again suspect. Transition defense, especially in secondary break situations, saw the Hoosiers yield easy layup after easy layup, easy dunk after easy dunk. Players flew at head fakes, doubled when one defender was sufficient, and just generally looked every bit as disorganized as they did in their ugly loss to Xavier. Kelvin Sampson being what he is — a very solid defensive coach — I’m keeping the faith things get turned around eventually. But it’s becoming clear that the fix isn’t going to be nearly as quick as any of us had hoped.

– Lance Stemler hit three threes. This should not be notable, but it is, because it is so very outside the norm. That’s how bad Lance Stemler has shot the basketball for the past oh, 25 games or so.

– It’s also becoming clear that Eric Gordon, as good as he is, is most comfortable in the open floor. Without comparing him too literally to LeBron James (sorry folks, but EJ is no LBJ), he resembles LeBron in that they are both far more at home when sprinting at defenders in the open floor, rather than attempting to find themselves in the half court. Bear with me here.

In the half court offense, Gordon has yet to integrate himself in whatever minimal offensive flow the Hoosiers have. Instead, when he gets the ball, he usually attempts to beat his man off the dribble; failing that, he either dishes it or shoots a step-back jumper, and his mid-range game has yet to to really impress. On the other hand, Gordon is an absolute shark in the open floor. Regardless of the defenders in front of him, if Gordon catches the ball on the break around, say, half court, it’s a guaranteed basket. Watching him sprint forward, overpowering and eluding defenders, is a sublime experience, one I’m hoping he soon extends to his half-court attack. If he does, he’ll be even more unstoppable than he already is.

(Then again, he still scored 29, so I’ll, um, temper my criticisms.)

– Speaking of “minimal offensive flow,” the Hoosiers’ offense took a tiny, almost imperceptible step forward Tuesday night. The pluses: IU located D.J. White in the post in better positions, and even ran the offense effectively enough to lead to several easy White buckets. When guards broke down defenders on the dribble, White pivoted to good spots on the block, and the shooters relocated efficiently. This team is talented enough to score even when everyone looks lost.

Which is good to know, because the Hoosiers looked lost often. Again, give part of that credit to Georgia Tech’s full-court pressure, which Paul Hewitt’s scouts surely saw the Hoosiers hadn’t yet faced, and which forced the Hoosiers into rushed offensive posessions. Give the rest of the credit to a team that looks confused, Still, even when IU got settled down, they showed little in the way of organized offensive strategy. Why Sampson doesn’t run Gordon off high screens more often baffles me. There are so many variations off a quick high screen — a Gordon drive, a D.J. White jump shot, a D.J. White roll, a Gordon jump shot, a dish to a suddenly open wing player — that it seems inconceivable to not run it. If anyone doubts such a simple play’s efficiency, watch the Phoenix Suns very closely. Sampson seemed eager to let Earl Calloway run high screen and rolls all year last year; surely he can trust Gordon with a similar task.

After Sampson installs a high screen and roll — favorite play of grade-school offenses everywhere — maybe we can move on to off-ball screens. But let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves.

– One last complaint about the offense: In 49 field goals last night, the Hoosiers had — get this — 10 assists. 10! That’s an incredibly low number for 49 field goals, and tells us at least one thing: this team is not playing together. Not at all. And I’m not sure how offensively effective they can continue to be if that doesn’t improve.

Brief Off-Court Notes

– First: Anyone else have trouble with ESPN’s HD signal last night? I need to know whether to berate my cable company today or not.

– Second: Color me impressed by Jimmy Dykes. It seems like broadcasters have to do something extra to impress us jaded, post-postmodern Internet types out here … but Dykes crossed that threshold for me last night. Besides his brief slurp of Lance Stemler — just because Lance is a mediocre white dude doesn’t make him “blue-collar,” people — Dykes was insightful, articulate, and well-prepared. He had a full-on scouting report of Eric Gordon, had clear impressions of nearly everyone on the floor, and had chemistry with play-by-play man Brad Nessler. Pair him up with Gus Johnson, and we just might have my dream college basketball team.

As always, your additions in the comments.

  • Tom
    I agree on the need for the high screens involving D.J. and E.J. It's apparent E.J. will be playing more point-guard while Crawford is out and it would be a great time to use the high screen, especially if Stemler has found his 3-touch. He and Bassett could be wings-in-waiting with the attention Gordon and White would get.
  • Zac Pelz
    Dykes had me until his last comment of the game..."If Eric Gordon would have been on Georgia Tech, they would have won." Simply stunning.
  • Dugan Fife
    Besides being "blue collar," us slow talent challenged white dudes are also "intlligent."
  • 11DFIFE11
    DJ White shouldn't be more than 15 ft away from the basket. His 3 pt screens are useless.
  • kelin
    *DJ's 3pt screens are useless
    *I do like his 5 questions about EJ as it relates to his NBA readiness
    *I cannot understand why our offense is so 1 on 1. I know our defense will get better but our offense is more of a concern. You will not win in the NCAA tourney playing that offense.

    I look at our offense and say to myself....what will happen when a Matt "freakin" Roth gets there, will he ever see a screen? KS please logon and tell us this is not our offense the entire year! Please tell us at some point we will SWITCH defenses!

    E-
    EJ has a solid mid range game....but given our horrible offense we don't see much of it because of how and where he gets the ball. I saw him torch Franklin Central, Pike etc. using ALL of his game. Our offense makes scoring so difficult.

    Finally....I like what Jamarcus Ellis can do...which is ALOT. His jumpshot is shaky but the guy creates so so much with his passing and his ability to score.

    Finally #2 I have read different opionions about Mike White last night....the one thing I saw that I like was activity on the glass. Mike Whits is 5'11 255 pounds but he goes after the ball and plays physical.....right now it can't hurt.
  • David
    I think defense is a huge problem with this team right now. They got run up and down the court for the majority of the game. Their interior defense, especially in the first half, left much to be desired.

    I liked a lot of what Stemler did this game. I think he showed great hustle, as always, found his shot and showed confidence in his shot (much more important). But he also left me a little frustrated when an opponents first step blew right by him on more than one occassion.
  • Kyle
    Dykes might have provided some interesting insight but if I heard "quality road win" or "lead guard" one more time I was going to throw something. Also, I don't watch many NBA games and listen to even fewer but has "lead guard" replaced "point guard"?
  • Tsell
    Four thoughts:

    -DJ only attacks the rim with authority when he has an open lane. I wish he would attack the rim and go to the line sometimes. He is big and quick enough to make that happen.

    -Two personnel notes you didn't mention were that Mike White is not red-shirting (WooHoo! We got his scholarship back!), and Crawford got suspended.

    -Segue to the reason for only 10 assists on 49 made FGs: our two best passers this season (IMO), Jordan Crawford and DeAndre Thomas, did not see the floor because of a suspension and ridiculous big/slowness, respectively. Those are the only two new players who have built their games on making shots happen for other players. Gordon and Ellis are both good ball handlers when it comes to making shots for themselves, but they do not have much experience with having enough talent around them to have made passing part of their regular offensive diets. Crawford has made more of those type of passes.

    -PostmanE, I think your suggestion to have EJ bring the ball up is good, but in addition to EJ not being LBJ, he is no Steve Nash either. He can excellently create his own shot, but like I said above, so far he has not been able to create many shots for others.
  • Brian
    Two comments -

    #1 - IU had 10 assists on only 24 made baskets (49 was the number of attempts not made baskets). That is around 42% of our baskets with an assist. My guess would be between 50 and 60% is where we need to be.

    #2 - The statistic that bothered me more was that GT had 17 more shot attempts than IU 66-49. That was due to poor defensive rebounding and too many turnovers for IU. It is tough to win when the other team gets that many more opportunities to score.

    That being said, IU will continue to get better and I can't wait to get our senior guard Ratliff back in the line-up. Go IU!!!
  • Steve O
    Kelvin should show the team a tape of the beat down that took place at Cameron Indoor last night. Duke's offense is like a well oiled machine. Everyone is moving, and it seems like everyone is touching the ball on every posession. I hate Duke as much as anyone else, but they beat Wisconsin by 24... That's one of our main competitors.

    Also, Ellis looked great. And why not give the Big D some minutes and see what happens. He might be slow, but underneath, he is a handful for anyone. I think he was in there for like 5 seconds.

    One other thing... Why not let Holman get a few minutes? He's raw, true, but he is also a good shot blocker and a pretty good rebounder. We only played 7 guys last night. EJ will never make it a whole season playing all 40 minutes every game. I guess the Crawford situation didn't help much.
  • Mark
    Our defense has to improve and we need to stop the 1 on 1 offense. EJ is terrible with off the ball defense. He got burned for at least 15 points by being out of position. He's great on his man with the ball, but off the ball is a problem. Thomas played as much as he should right now. He had a rebound taken away from him because he can't/didn't jump. Mike White is good for the team because he plays for the team, not himself or NBA scouts. We are going to see a lot of teams racing back in transition to get easy buckets until we prove we can stop it. DJ needs to keep this type of game going. Bassett hesitated driving the lane on a few occasions which could be the injury. I hope Ratliff can come back soon as his D and long arms will help. We have a long way to go and I'm glad it's early enough to fix the problems. If it becomes Jan or Feb and we are talking about these issues, we're in trouble. We got the win and we needed it. Now on to S. Ill. where we will need to play a complete game to win on the road. Thanks for a great web site!
  • Craig
    I think we need more explanation around Mike White no longer redshirting and Crawford's suspension. I had seen that he will be suspended for three games. Is this definite? Could it be longer?

    With Mike White coming back, isn't this just KS telling us that Holman is not ready and Stemler will never be ready? I can't help but think that if we had Mike White then maybe the Xavier game could have been closer.
  • Cutter in Chicago
    I agree with almost all of your comments EXCEPT the Jimmy Dykes portion. He was awful. I mean ”If Eric Gordon would have been on Georgia Tech, they would have won.” Really? No kidding. The guy has apparently been torturing Arkansas fans for several years as their color guy. He offered no insights beyond what was prepared for him by the ESPN producers. I couldn't stand him, it was like having a hick read me the USA Today blurb about IU again and again. Further, both announcers spent too much time rehashing the "Phone Gate" issues and editorialized it to death. Fellas, let the big boys at the studio handle that, your job is to do the nuts and bolts and occasionally set a screen to get the lovely Stacey Dales open for us at home.
  • Ryan_Btown
    1st, I like the site, been reading for a while, first post. I feel the offense will come along better as the season progresses. I know its a concern as of right now as we start playing more talented teams and especially as we begin going on the road, but turnovers killed us. EJ made several really terrible passes to DJ and he looked very, to steal a word from Sampson, "Jittery". I think that will improve as he plays better teams. Hopefully, as the younger kids start decreasing their dumb turnovers, I look for that assist number to go up and everything else to start coming together.
  • McD
    Yes we need depth work with Eli and McGee, but last night was not the game for that, nor will Saturday unless it is a blowout.

    I can't believe we are still hating on Mike White and Lance Stemler after last night. They both contribute energy and toughness and are solid team players. Yes they have their deficiencies physically a la Eric Suhr, but had solid games and without the play of either, we lose.

    We need more from DJ White. He is supposed to be our senior leader, so when the team is playing defense like their senior captain (jogging in transition, poor rotation, allowing splits, weak post defense), I have to point to DJ. I taped the game last night so was able to rewind several fast breaks from GT and see DJ jogging down the floor when he could have rebounded a second chance basket or defended a 2nd or 3rd pass. SPRINT BACK!

    Bottom line is this team is slowly getting better, expectations were too high, and we will be thankful in B10 play for the humble pie Xavier gave us early in the season.
  • DB
    I agree with Cutter. Dykes WAS awful. Did anyone else catch his comment about DeAndre in the first half that basically boiled down to a claim that "people of DeAndre's size" (i.e. obese people) are either jovial jokesters or shy losers? My jaw dropped.
  • PMK
    I found only two times the high screen and roll was run with DJ in the 1st half, once with Gordon and once with Ellis. At the 9:45 mark IU ran a set play (oh boy!) with DJ screening for Gordon at the arc, Gordon coming off it and dishing to DJ for a jumper perfectly within his range. At the 8:55 mark, we run another high screen on the opposite side of the floor with DJ and Ellis, DJ draws two defenders rolling off, and Armon is about as open as anyone will ever be in college basketball. He misses, but Lance is fortunate enough to have had his man helping on DJ so he gets an easy tip.

    I think those suggesting DJ shouldn't set high screens should watch the success of both of these plays and reevaluate.

    Credit where its due - "Blue Collar/White Jersey" Lance made his shots, so congrats to him. However, his defense and rebounding looked like that of a undersized, nonathletic player throughout the game.

    DB - Great call on the Dykes comment about Deandre. If anyone wants to hear it, the comment is at the 1:15 mark in the first half. "Guys like that are either in a shell..." Too funny.
  • kelin
    Ok....here is an excuse I will give our offense right now....

    Earlier in the year KS said you have to chose early what you want to be good at Early in the season.....obviously as he said they wanted to be good at Defense first cause he has a lot of players that can get baskets....makes sense now our offense is not up to par but we have guys that can get shots.......our defense is improving, I will be patient.
  • David
    When nearly all the athletes running the point of attack are all either freshman (Gordon, Crawford) or first year Juco transfers (Ellis), I think it is understandable that we are going to have some offensive issues.

    I'll agree with others before who have said that the real concern on offense isn't what is happening now but it will be a concern if this type of play continues in Feb and March.
  • MKH
    Brian:
    "#2 - The statistic that bothered me more was that GT had 17 more shot attempts than IU 66-49. That was due to poor defensive rebounding and too many turnovers for IU. It is tough to win when the other team gets that many more opportunities to score."

    Yeah, okay, but let's not forget that we took 18 more free throws than they did too. That shot disparity is not *all* bad.
  • ALH '00
    "...but they do not have much experience with having enough talent around them to have made passing part of their regular offensive diets"

    They are constantly passing off of their drives to the bucket...sometimes the bigs are ready for the pass, though. That chemistry should improve with time. Plus Gordon probably should slow some of his rocket passes on the breaks...not everyone has his hands and coordination.

    I also agree with Steve O on Holman. I thought last night would have been the perfect opportunity for him to eat some minutes, with GT's running style. They rarely scored back-to-the-basket, so there is less of a body match-up problem there.

    Finally, I guess it was "good-Stemler" for everyone last night. The criticisms are much less harsh when you drop 15. Still, I though I heard the crowd really cheering when he came out of the lineup with about 15:00 to go in the 1st half? Poor kid.
  • mark
    I was at the game. I don't think there were ever any cheers because Lance came out of the lineup. May have been cheers for his effort. I can't recall that point in the game though.
  • Kyle Trowbridge
    Dykes was awful last night. He just seems better because he isn't Vitale. After the 1st half I had to switch it to Fisch and Leary.

    ESPN commentators are by in lage awful, and Dykes is one of them.
  • slojoe
    Craig, although ESPN was reporting an indefinite suspension, Coach Sampson said 3 games. But I think White not redshirting was only partially due to the suspension. We did need another body with the suspension but AJ is coming back in 3 games and he is in the backcourt like Crawford. I think Coach Sampson has just had enough of our lack of interior defense and problems blocking out and rebounding. These are things that you know Mike White will give us. Yes, he will miss bunnies and have problems guarding taller and physical bigs but he can give us those two things which we don't apparently have at this time with Eli and Thomas.
  • ray
    yeah...dykes drove me insane. i couldn't stand listening to him talk again and again about quality road wins!

    as for the play of gordon, again he played completely out of control in the first half.

    the best part of last night's game, besides dj getting 18 and 14, was that they won...oh yeah, and that coach made a brilliant decision to play mike white (even though by now he lost 5 games of his senior season)...and i guess one more thing, ellis impressed once again.
  • ray
    as for the cheering of stemler leaving the line up...fans appreciated his effort last night...that's what fans do when a player plays well and gets sent to the bench for a much-deserved rest.
  • ray
    MCD

    you are exactly right about dj, but unfortunately it's nearly the entire team that doesn't sprint back! that, as i've stated in previous posts, is all about conditioning or a lack of desire...either way, there education is paid for because the university and its fans expect this type of effort. so MCD, i agree...SPRINT BACK!
  • Dylan
    It was a toss-up which was more frustrating: IU not rotating to prevent numerous easy jams or Jimmy Dykes gushing about GT. He began with Sampson's infractions, and what other coaches thought. Kept talking about Crawford being suspended. As for the game, he either talked about Gordon or Georgia Tech. At the end, he saw time was running out, so he tried to get all his final insults in before they cut away. But he got on my nerves way before that. "I'm not convinced IU is better than Georgia Tech." Why not just say "GT really came in here and gave it all they got."? I think all ESPN announcers were told to be at least a little anti Big Ten now that ESPN is competing with the Big Ten Network...
  • Indiana Jim
    Who is EJ?
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