Experts weigh in on 2008 recruiting class

  • 11/15/2007 6:28 pm in

roth.jpgThe report cards are starting to roll in for the 2008 recruiting classes to date and the returns are favorable for our Hoosiers. I looked at four recruiting services – Rivals, Scout, Hoopmasters and The Hoop Scoop – and all of them have Indiana’s class among the top 25 in the country.

Rivals.com has the most favorable assessment, slotting the class as the 15th best in the country:

The Hoosiers have a star coming to Bloomington in Devin Ebanks. In lieu of an Eric Gordon departure in the spring, Ebanks gives coach Kelvin Sampson another outstanding offensive weapon. Ebanks, a versatile 6-foot-8 wing, is one of the toughest players to defend at his position. Point guard Terrell Holloway is a jitterbug floor general with great speed and solid distribution skills. Matt Roth gives the team a good shooter, and Tom Pritchard is a big-bodied grinder that will fit in well in the Big Ten.

The Louisville Courier-Journal’s recruiting guru and our good friend, Jody Demling, thinks that IU’s class could end up ranking higher when it’s all said and done.

“I would say when it gets to the lower teens (in the ranking of the classes), they’re all basically the same,” Demling said. “While you see separation at the top, you don’t see separation in the classes ranked 15 to 20. I think Indiana will raise a little by the end of the year because of Matt Roth. He’s a lot better than people think he is. I think the kid’s going to be really good.”

The Hoop Scoop, managed by Clark Francis, puts the class at No. 23. Some IU fans may remember Francis for his ranking of a fictional player, Ivan Renko, that was created by Bob Knight. Van Coleman of Hoopmasters slotted the class at No. 19 and Dave Telep of Scout.com ranks the class No. 25.

So what does all of this mean? Absolutely nothing. The rankings should be taken for what they are: somebody’s opinion. They’re not scientific and there are always highly touted players that end up doing nothing (see: Felipe Lopez) and there’s always those who come from under the radar and turn into impact players (see: Grayson Flittner, just ask Kentucky fans).

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  • Jordan

    Disregard Clark Francis’ rankings. His system is based off of points, so as long as you have decent recruits, the more you have the higher you are ranked…Wake Forest has three 5-star recruits (3 of the top 24 players in the nation per Rivals) and they were tied for 18th on his list. Yeah…

  • Jordan

    Disregard Clark Francis’ rankings. His system is based off of points, so as long as you have decent recruits, the more you have the higher you are ranked…Wake Forest has three 5-star recruits (3 of the top 24 players in the nation per Rivals) and they were tied for 18th on his list. Yeah…

  • Jordan,

    Gotta agree with you on “Clark in the dark’s” rankings. I only mentioned him for a couple of reasons:

    1. He’s been around forever and he does see a lot of players.
    2. It was an opportunity to bring up one of my favorite recruits, Ivan Renko.

    I also found it curious that he doesn’t include Matt Roth as committed to Indiana.

  • Jordan,

    Gotta agree with you on “Clark in the dark’s” rankings. I only mentioned him for a couple of reasons:

    1. He’s been around forever and he does see a lot of players.
    2. It was an opportunity to bring up one of my favorite recruits, Ivan Renko.

    I also found it curious that he doesn’t include Matt Roth as committed to Indiana.

  • nealE

    the ivan renko story is my all time favorite bobby story. it’s just hilarious and amazing. i still laugh every time when i hear it.

  • nealE

    the ivan renko story is my all time favorite bobby story. it’s just hilarious and amazing. i still laugh every time when i hear it.

  • You love using Matt Roth pictures. I think you have a crush on him. A healthy, three-point loving man crush.

  • You love using Matt Roth pictures. I think you have a crush on him. A healthy, three-point loving man crush.

  • Great Ivan Renko reference. I also like hearing the comment on Matt Roth that he is going to be a lot better than people think.

  • Great Ivan Renko reference. I also like hearing the comment on Matt Roth that he is going to be a lot better than people think.

  • Alan

    Which of these four do you think will be the first to be booed by IU fans?

  • Alan

    Which of these four do you think will be the first to be booed by IU fans?

  • Alan,

    Ivan Renko, for sure.

  • Alan,

    Ivan Renko, for sure.

  • kelin

    I have a 3pointer man crush on Matt “freakin'” Roth. This kid might be flying waaay under the radar with a lot of people including IU fans. I think he is a lot more than a 3pt shooter.

  • kelin

    I have a 3pointer man crush on Matt “freakin'” Roth. This kid might be flying waaay under the radar with a lot of people including IU fans. I think he is a lot more than a 3pt shooter.

  • kelin

    I have a 3pointer man crush on Matt “freakin'” Roth. This kid might be flying waaay under the radar with a lot of people including IU fans. I think he is a lot more than a 3pt shooter.

  • Tom

    The end of season rankings are all that matters.
    All of the recruiting hype does little more than create jobs and dollars for a few prognosticators and kills a lot of time for those of us who continually read their rants.
    Has anyone noticed lately, many of the teams doing well in recent NCAA tournaments have done so without highly acclaimed recruiting classes. In effect, their recruiting classes, going forward, will get a better look from the prognosticators, due to their tournament success,thus higher recruiting class ratings.

  • Tom

    The end of season rankings are all that matters.
    All of the recruiting hype does little more than create jobs and dollars for a few prognosticators and kills a lot of time for those of us who continually read their rants.
    Has anyone noticed lately, many of the teams doing well in recent NCAA tournaments have done so without highly acclaimed recruiting classes. In effect, their recruiting classes, going forward, will get a better look from the prognosticators, due to their tournament success,thus higher recruiting class ratings.

  • Steve O

    Anyone notice that Matt Roth reminds you alot of a freshman JJ Redick? I mean, I’m from Maryland, and I absolutely hate Duke and JJ with every ounce of my being, but the dude could shoot the lights out.

    As a freshman, Redick had little more than a jump shot that he could probably shoot accurately from mid court. But by his senior year, he could do alot of other things pretty well.

    I mean it might be a stretch, but from the video I’ve seen of Roth, he seems like the same type of player, and his shot is ridiculous. He was hitting one contested tre’ after another. I would love to see him mature into the type of player Redick was. I just hope he’s hitting the gym every day because his body isn’t exactly big ten ready at this point.

  • Steve O

    Anyone notice that Matt Roth reminds you alot of a freshman JJ Redick? I mean, I’m from Maryland, and I absolutely hate Duke and JJ with every ounce of my being, but the dude could shoot the lights out.

    As a freshman, Redick had little more than a jump shot that he could probably shoot accurately from mid court. But by his senior year, he could do alot of other things pretty well.

    I mean it might be a stretch, but from the video I’ve seen of Roth, he seems like the same type of player, and his shot is ridiculous. He was hitting one contested tre’ after another. I would love to see him mature into the type of player Redick was. I just hope he’s hitting the gym every day because his body isn’t exactly big ten ready at this point.

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  • knasmiley

    Craig, thanks for the link to a bunch of non-sense, I dont know what your point was but that was a bunch of little babies crying like PU or Illini fans….

    This is a very very good class that imho will turn out to be a foundation laying class to build a program around, I the room for improvement in ALL of them is very HIGH……….

    AJS

  • knasmiley

    Craig, thanks for the link to a bunch of non-sense, I dont know what your point was but that was a bunch of little babies crying like PU or Illini fans….

    This is a very very good class that imho will turn out to be a foundation laying class to build a program around, I the room for improvement in ALL of them is very HIGH……….

    AJS