I think TZ ends up in North Carolina. His brother not playing much at ND doesn’t help them and PU has J.Johnson and in TZ’s class there isn’t as much coming in with him at PU…..as far as IU, I don’t think the sanctions hurt IU that much with him, he just may be a better fit with Roy than KS…I am more of a K.Jones fan than TZ….

I think TZ ends up in North Carolina. His brother not playing much at ND doesn’t help them and PU has J.Johnson and in TZ’s class there isn’t as much coming in with him at PU…..as far as IU, I don’t think the sanctions hurt IU that much with him, he just may be a better fit with Roy than KS…I am more of a K.Jones fan than TZ….

I just don’t get the comments he makes. He says that he has no idea where he is going, and that he is just waiting for the day he wakes up and knows where he is going to go to school. It is just more proof that picking your college is the first real decision a person makes. Because if he had ever made a tough decision before, he would know you don’t just wake up one morning with all your decisions made for you. Someday pretty close to signing day it will hit him like a ton of bricks, “Shit, I’m going to have to make a conscious decision and live with the consequences!” That is the way adulthood and the real world works.

While im holding out hope that he comes to Bloomington next year, UNC seems to make a lot of sense. My first thought when I heard UNC was that they already have a player just like him. Tyler Hansborough (sp?) was a very very similar player at the same age. Roy probably used that in his recruitment and how well it panned out. Also, I wouldn’t be surprised if Tyler wants to step out of our state’s spotlight and go elsewhere to make a name for him self much like McRoberts did.

In the end I think that he going to choose UNC mainly because he gets along well with Roy williams. It kind of seems that the indystar believes that he’s going there as well, because the majority of the pics that they show of tyler zeller have Roy williams right beside him.
Anywho I still think that Indiana would have been the better home because IU offers practicaly the same education, fan base ( though our students are more crazy), and basketball tradition. However, IU is closer to home, (it is cool when your parents can come watch your games, and his good friends are going to be playing at IU. If he does not choose IU, I think we can still benefit from it, because it opens up a scholarship for the highly talented 09 class. I would rather have room for stephenson if he decides to come to IU than Zeller. Who knows whats going to happen, but either way IU can still have the glass full mentality.

I don’t think you guys understand how important a quality big man is to this class. DJ will be gone and Eli can’t do it alone. Zeller would not have the immediate impact of a Gordon or Stephenson, but he’d do a lot more for the program over four years. I think we’re sitting better than everyone else here thinks. Come on Zeller.

I don’t think you guys understand how important a quality big man is to this class. DJ will be gone and Eli can’t do it alone. Zeller would not have the immediate impact of a Gordon or Stephenson, but he’d do a lot more for the program over four years. I think we’re sitting better than everyone else here thinks. Come on Zeller.

I guess what we all are saying is TZ go anywhere but PU

I guess what we all are saying is TZ go anywhere but PU

Zeller was not born when either Eric Montross or Rick Fox began their careers at UNC.

And I doubt he was watching in his crib when Montross helped lead Carolina to the NCAA Championship in 1993.

I have a hard time believing that Zeller is more likely to head to UNC because “he wouldn’t be the first Indiana kid to head to Chapel Hill”.

I’m guessing if he ends up going down south to play in the ACC, it is more likely because of the opportunity for exposure, chance to play for a storied program, and the possibility of soon filling the role that Tyler Hansbrough currently holds in Roy Williams’ lineup.

Zeller will probably end up at UNC, just like the other prized in-state big men-ala Montross, May, Fox etc. I’m hoping that maybe Zeller will turn the tide and start a wave of in-state big men landing in Hoosierland. Who knows? Sampson is starting to get some of the NY-NJ area players interested in IU. That’s a first in how long? Would you say IU never had a east cost connection of recruits? Heck, we finally got a player from Kentucky for the first time in over 50 years. Oh, I forgot we had one- Mackey. If Sampson’s only violation is having his assistants making too many phone calls,besides the three way calling, than this is a not a serious problem until he does it one last time. Give Sampson some time and we will see him run a program that will make us proud and stand up and shout IU!!!

Zeller will probably end up at UNC, just like the other prized in-state big men-ala Montross, May, Fox etc. I’m hoping that maybe Zeller will turn the tide and start a wave of in-state big men landing in Hoosierland. Who knows? Sampson is starting to get some of the NY-NJ area players interested in IU. That’s a first in how long? Would you say IU never had a east cost connection of recruits? Heck, we finally got a player from Kentucky for the first time in over 50 years. Oh, I forgot we had one- Mackey. If Sampson’s only violation is having his assistants making too many phone calls,besides the three way calling, than this is a not a serious problem until he does it one last time. Give Sampson some time and we will see him run a program that will make us proud and stand up and shout IU!!!

Big A,

Can you please explain what you mean by “And we all know the appeal of playing at IU.” What is the appeal of playing at IU. The coach is a cheater and the facilities are poor.

Please advise.

Paul are you that disgusted with the program that you overlook…”the team?”. I understand your feelings about the coach, but what did DJ, EJ, Lance, Jordan…what did they do to you? Can you not separate the two? For a place with poor facilities there must be some appeal for roth, elston, ebanks and the rest…..

Paul are you that disgusted with the program that you overlook…”the team?”. I understand your feelings about the coach, but what did DJ, EJ, Lance, Jordan…what did they do to you? Can you not separate the two? For a place with poor facilities there must be some appeal for roth, elston, ebanks and the rest…..

Paul are you that disgusted with the program that you overlook…”the team?”. I understand your feelings about the coach, but what did DJ, EJ, Lance, Jordan…what did they do to you? Can you not separate the two? For a place with poor facilities there must be some appeal for roth, elston, ebanks and the rest…..

I’m thinking he’s leaning to PU. He has 3 in state schools left on his list. I get the feeling he doesn’t want to go too far away. ND is probably out. His brother isn’t getting any pt and Harangody will still be there clogging up the middle and Brey can’t coach big men. IU probably was in the thick of it before the phone call debacle and I think that hurt them enough to move them into a strong 2nd place. So that leaves PU, who has a coach that has proven to do well with recruiting Indiana kids, seems to be a disciplinarian, runs a clean program, doesn’t swear and PU isn’t too far away. Plus any thought that IU may be hit hard by the NCAA will play a part in his decision. I think NC is a courtesy at this point. He visited PU last and that will be his lasting impression. Painter wins this round in my opinion.

I’m thinking he’s leaning to PU. He has 3 in state schools left on his list. I get the feeling he doesn’t want to go too far away. ND is probably out. His brother isn’t getting any pt and Harangody will still be there clogging up the middle and Brey can’t coach big men. IU probably was in the thick of it before the phone call debacle and I think that hurt them enough to move them into a strong 2nd place. So that leaves PU, who has a coach that has proven to do well with recruiting Indiana kids, seems to be a disciplinarian, runs a clean program, doesn’t swear and PU isn’t too far away. Plus any thought that IU may be hit hard by the NCAA will play a part in his decision. I think NC is a courtesy at this point. He visited PU last and that will be his lasting impression. Painter wins this round in my opinion.

I feel that he is going to pick Purdue. He passed on going to Midnight Madness at either IU or UNC. That tells me that he didn’t want to see the best each had to offer so he could more easily choose another. I also think ND is way more in the running than most are giving credit. The Catholics in Washington are very religious, including Zeller’s family, and don’t think that won’t weigh a great deal in his decision. But with everything I know about Zeller, since the beginning he has just always ‘seemed’ like a Boiler. It would be a disappointment, really. :{

kelin, every time someone says something that doesn’t praise IU you jump on them like they are a complete moron. you need to look at things a more open mind. i think paul does raise an interesting question as to the current state of hoosier basketball. what exactly is the appeal of playing here?

i believe IU has one of the best programs in the country, but any recruit would be wise to carefully evaluate where he individually thinks the program is headed. it can easily been seen that IU is losing respect nationally. at the same time, sampson definitely knows how to win. the big questions won’t be answered for at least two years, but that doesn’t mean we can’t discuss them.

yours truly,
witt

Tyler has commented more than once about the excitement of Hoosier Hysteria, which translates into IU basketball. I believe he’ll decide to stay at home and help IU compete for Big Ten and NCAA championships. IU will always be Indiana’s flagship basketball school, and playing for the Hoosiers will mean more to Tyler throughout his life than playing for any other school. In a short time Sampson has IU back in the national elite. Tyler will want to help keep the Hoosiers there.

When Witt says “it can easily be seen that IU is losing respect nationally,” I wonder what basis he has for that. The fact that Sampson’s program is gaining interest from potential recruits in most areas of the country refutes that. I don’t believe players or fans care much about a few excessive phone calls, even if Sampson’s judgment clearly can be called into question. When Sampson guides the Hoosiers to a Big Ten championship and into the NCAA Final Four this season, respect for IU basketball will be soaring.

Jack-o-lantern,

I don’t think losing scholarships persuades recruits to play for IU. I do agree that the program is gaining interest through the press, but I’m not sure that it is good press. I also agree that well will see quite a bit of success this season, there’s just too much talent. I’m really just raising the flags for concern and not jumping ship. Fans and recruits probably don’t care too much about these recent violations, but I don’t see how they could possibly have a positive impact on the Hoosiers in the future as you seem to imply.

Witt if you read Pauls post he talked about IU’s poor facilities and their cheater coach….I jumped on him and you can have some too because…the facilities were poor before EJ signed, KS had sanctions before EJ signed…shall I go on….Before Jamarcus, Ebanks, Roth, Elston, crawford, Deandre, all signed the facilities were still poor and ks still had the sanctions following him…NOW GIVEN ALL of those FACTS and not random statements made by Paul and you….tell me where the facilities and cheater coach is hurting this program…..

WHY would over a dozen recruits come to IU’s midnight madness with those crappy facilities and a coach who can’t stay off the phone…UNC has better facilities…so does Duke….

I will await your response…and please answer my questions and read my post. You can smash KS as much as I have at times but don’t over blow what has happened GOOD and BAD…IU is a NATIONAL program STILL and gaining ground.

OH wait is the program hurting because Kent Benson said it was? or was it Ted Kitchel?