Comments on: What to do with a problem like Bud http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/ Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:11:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: John http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/comment-page-1/#comment-3455 John Sat, 01 Dec 2007 03:15:44 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/#comment-3455 This kid stole cars in the ninth grade. This kid stole cars in the ninth grade.

]]> By: PostmanE http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/comment-page-1/#comment-1149 PostmanE Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:35:00 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/#comment-1149 Jude: I appreciate your observation, but I think you're supporting the point I was trying to make there: Crack is far less acceptable to the average, white, midwestern IU fan than a "party" drug like ecstasy would be. I draw no such difference; to be honest, if Mackey wasn't <i>doing crack</i>, I don't have that much problem with him selling it. The reality for plenty of black male youth in this country is that selling drugs is literally their only option, whether for short-term or long-term financial gain. Without getting into an argument on the War on Drugs in this country (stupid, stupid, stupid), that's how I feel. So I appreciate your comment, but I promise I wasn't trying to hold up that cultural bias. Rather, I was trying to expose it. I definitely should have been more clear. Jude:

I appreciate your observation, but I think you’re supporting the point I was trying to make there: Crack is far less acceptable to the average, white, midwestern IU fan than a “party” drug like ecstasy would be. I draw no such difference; to be honest, if Mackey wasn’t doing crack, I don’t have that much problem with him selling it. The reality for plenty of black male youth in this country is that selling drugs is literally their only option, whether for short-term or long-term financial gain. Without getting into an argument on the War on Drugs in this country (stupid, stupid, stupid), that’s how I feel.

So I appreciate your comment, but I promise I wasn’t trying to hold up that cultural bias. Rather, I was trying to expose it. I definitely should have been more clear.

]]> By: JUDE http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/comment-page-1/#comment-1148 JUDE Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:30:26 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/#comment-1148 There is some cultural bias evident in this article. One of the author's first reaction is something like "Crack? Why not ecstacy?" Well, that is the trapping of preference among black youth in our country. Ecstacy seems more likely preferred by a frat boy from from the suburbs or hippie chick running aroud Bloomington. So, what's up with the kid? Will he receive treatment/help? Has he been arrested, charged with a crime, etc.? Will he play ball in college...at IU? There is some cultural bias evident in this article. One of the author’s first reaction is something like “Crack? Why not ecstacy?” Well, that is the trapping of preference among black youth in our country. Ecstacy seems more likely preferred by a frat boy from from the suburbs or hippie chick running aroud Bloomington.
So, what’s up with the kid? Will he receive treatment/help? Has he been arrested, charged with a crime, etc.? Will he play ball in college…at IU?

]]> By: jaime gongora http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/comment-page-1/#comment-1122 jaime gongora Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:50:12 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/#comment-1122 I'll agree to mmm's comments. I don't want him to necesarily play basketball for us, I just don't want the kid to be completly thrown into the gutter. This just doesn't go for mackey, it goes for all kids who make this type of mistake, and who put the comitment and yearn for a second chance. After all we all can't be perfect like Tom. I’ll agree to mmm’s comments. I don’t want him to necesarily play basketball for us, I just don’t want the kid to be completly thrown into the gutter. This just doesn’t go for mackey, it goes for all kids who make this type of mistake, and who put the comitment and yearn for a second chance. After all we all can’t be perfect like Tom.

]]> By: Newt http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/comment-page-1/#comment-1120 Newt Tue, 02 Oct 2007 05:59:07 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/#comment-1120 Later Bud.... Later Bud….

]]> By: Tom http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/comment-page-1/#comment-1114 Tom Tue, 02 Oct 2007 00:07:49 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/#comment-1114 The facts are coming out-1.6 grams of rock cocaine cut in 5 pieces in his shoe---admission of delivering it to another person----Shut out the lights,the party's over The facts are coming out-1.6 grams of rock cocaine cut in 5 pieces in his shoe—admission of delivering it to another person—-Shut out the lights,the party’s over

]]> By: mmm http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/comment-page-1/#comment-1113 mmm Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:38:42 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/#comment-1113 If there's even a bit of truth to the charges, Mackey should not be wearing an IU jersey next year. Schools like UConn have been rightly criticized for allowing players involved in serious crimes to play for their basketball teams. IU holds itself to a higher standard and is right to do so. This does not mean that Sampson has to turn his back on the kid. Sampson can continue to act as a friend and as a mentor and help support and advise him if he chooses to put his life back on the right track. He can show that he continues to care about Mackey as a person, and not just as a basketball player. And Sampson could even make him a deal. Sampson could say that if Mackey resolves his legal problems and demonstrates a serious commitment to turning his life around by going to a junior college, getting good grades, and staying out of trouble for two years, there will be an IU scholarship waiting for him at the end of the process. Giving a second chance in a case like this only works if the kid is really committed to turning a new page. And the risk is that the kid concludes that he doesn't really have to change his ways because his talent will always be great enough to make people overlook his sins. Mackey needs to know that there's only a place for him at IU if he really is willing to live up to IU's standards. Given the seriousness of this transgression, next fall is too soon to be sure about the answer to that question. I want to see more proof about his intentions before I see him in an IU jersey. If there’s even a bit of truth to the charges, Mackey should not be wearing an IU jersey next year. Schools like UConn have been rightly criticized for allowing players involved in serious crimes to play for their basketball teams. IU holds itself to a higher standard and is right to do so.

This does not mean that Sampson has to turn his back on the kid. Sampson can continue to act as a friend and as a mentor and help support and advise him if he chooses to put his life back on the right track. He can show that he continues to care about Mackey as a person, and not just as a basketball player.

And Sampson could even make him a deal. Sampson could say that if Mackey resolves his legal problems and demonstrates a serious commitment to turning his life around by going to a junior college, getting good grades, and staying out of trouble for two years, there will be an IU scholarship waiting for him at the end of the process.

Giving a second chance in a case like this only works if the kid is really committed to turning a new page. And the risk is that the kid concludes that he doesn’t really have to change his ways because his talent will always be great enough to make people overlook his sins.

Mackey needs to know that there’s only a place for him at IU if he really is willing to live up to IU’s standards. Given the seriousness of this transgression, next fall is too soon to be sure about the answer to that question. I want to see more proof about his intentions before I see him in an IU jersey.

]]> By: Big A http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/comment-page-1/#comment-1111 Big A Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:12:08 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/#comment-1111 I understand what you're saying, but I don't agree that a decision has been made. It happened three days ago and all of the facts are not out. I understand what you’re saying, but I don’t agree that a decision has been made. It happened three days ago and all of the facts are not out.

]]> By: Tom http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/comment-page-1/#comment-1109 Tom Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:01:48 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/#comment-1109 what does a day in court have to do with pulling the offer? Zilch. The bad publicity is enough. This isn't a due process case.Its about the privilege of an IU scholarship.I don't care if he gets off on a technicality.I don't care if it was rock candy instead of rock cocaine- he was still smelling of marijuana.The decision has been made. what does a day in court have to do with pulling the offer? Zilch. The bad publicity is enough. This isn’t a due process case.Its about the privilege of an IU scholarship.I don’t care if he gets off on a technicality.I don’t care if it was rock candy instead of rock cocaine- he was still smelling of marijuana.The decision has been made.

]]> By: Big A http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/comment-page-1/#comment-1108 Big A Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:26:23 +0000 http://www.insidethehall.com/2007/09/30/what-to-do-with-a-problem-like-bud/#comment-1108 It's a rumor. He hasn't even had a day in court yet. I'm sure a decision will be made after all of the facts are known. It’s a rumor. He hasn’t even had a day in court yet. I’m sure a decision will be made after all of the facts are known.

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